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Caribbean countries seek slavery reparations from three Europen countries (Here it comes)
MSNBC's The Grio / The Assocated Press ^ | July 25, 2013 | Ben Fox

Posted on 08/01/2013 7:49:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL.


21 posted on 08/01/2013 8:23:59 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.barbadosadvocate.com/newsitem.asp?more=local&NewsID=3794

The Eric Holder Municipal Complex opened

5/23/2009

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A humbled Attorney General Holder said that the gesture was not only a great honour for him, but also his family.
“... My father left Barbados at the age of 13, but he never really left this island paradise. He returned here many times and he brought his children with him all of those times. I was born in the United States, but I am also a product of this great nation. The traditions which make this nation so great, are the same ones which have shaped my life – hard work, education, respect – all are a part of what it means to be a Bajan, wherever you are,” he said.
He continued, “With this great honour that you have bestowed on me today... you are really recognising all of my relatives, who born in this nation are part of the tapestry which has made Barbados meek and great. Bajans are found in many different countries, but all of us share a common bond, a love for the place that we will always call home, and so it is with me. My roots to this place run deep; that which defines me was shaped by people who are of this country. I am not an outsider receiving this wonderful honour, I am simply the son of a Bajan, who lived a little north, but whose heart was always right here.”
Holder added that he was looking forward to working with the Barbados Government and Prime Minister David Thompson in the years ahead, as they continue to shape the great relations between the United States and this country.


22 posted on 08/01/2013 8:25:02 PM PDT by maggief
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To: DonaldC

(Looks like it may be time for this one again.)

Reparations for slavery?

When a black woman is one of the richest people in America?

When a black man was Secretary of State??

When a black woman was Secretary of State?

When black men have sat — and do sit — on the Supreme Court??

When a black would-be despot sits in the White House?????

When countless black men have risen to the top of the ranks of the richest in professional sports and show business?? Men like Hank Aaron. Men like Bill Cosby who... (Never mind. As we all know, Bill’s either an Uncle Tom or Oreo Cookie, depending on which black race pimp you listen to.)

And, how about Liberation Theology?

Liberation from WHAT? The chance to achieve and succeed??

Give me a break!!

Let me make it clear right up front: I am NOT a racist. I supported Herman Cain in his run for the Senate and supported him in his run for the WH. And if Allen West goes for it, he, too, has my support.

I also consider Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams two of the finest economists and minds extant today. In case you don’t know them, both are black.

Sowell, Williams and Cain – among others — have spoken out against those fellow blacks who castigate and vilify America for a slave system now long in our past. And ALL thinking men and women oppose the periodic calls for reparations. (When he ran, I supported Alan Keyes. I even spoke in his stead on the RTKABA at a Capitol rally and was asked to fill in for him on his radio show at the time. Sadly, while I still consider Alan a good man, I have had to rethink my support since he came out FOR reparations.)

The fact is that the modern descendants of slaves brought here in chains in admittedly miserable, soul-gutting conditions now calling for reparations need to remember something:

They should not only be glad to be in America, they should be glad to be ANYWHERE!

Had their ancestors NOT been brought OUT of Africa – many by Muslim slave raiders —the blood of those ancestors would have run into the earth over there several centuries ago, victims of the OTHER black tribes that captured them in one of the interminable tribal conflicts STILL ravaging that sad continent and these modern day would-be “plaintiffs” would not even exist.

And I would remind you that slavery is STILL practiced in parts of Africa (mainly by – American BLACK muslims LISTEN UP!! — MUSLIMS) and Asia today. How ironic that disgruntled American blacks are embracing a system that participated mightily in their initial bondage – and would, if Islam takes root here, probably put any who cling to their Christianity back INTO BONDAGE – or to the sword. In fact, as the majority of muslims consider black folks as “sub-human”, many of you black muzzies will get the axe.

95% of the African slaves who were transported across the Atlantic went to South and Central America, mainly to Portuguese, Spanish and French possessions, and that less than 5% of the slaves who crossed the Atlantic went to the United States, it was remarkable that the vast majority of academic research, films, books and articles concerning the slave trade concentrated only on the American involvement, as though slavery was a uniquely American aberration.

And should the great-great-great grandchildren of SLAVE OWNING BLACKS also be subject to PAYING these reparations? If so, how do we find THEM?

And I have traced MY family back to the SLAVS. Although the term looks to be related to “slave”, depending on your source, it either means “glory” or “worshipper.” But my family research indicates that many of my of my ancestors LIVED lives of virtual slavery to some despot or other. Do I qualify for reparations? From whom?? And it begs a question: Are most of us now living here headed into a modern form of that servitude? But that’s a topic for another discussion.

The official US Census of 1830 lists 3,775 free blacks who owned 12,740 black slaves. Furthermore, the story outlines the history of slavery here, and the first slave owner, the Father of American slavery, was Mr. Anthony Johnson, of Northampton, Virginia. His slave was John Casor, the first slave for life. Both were black Africans. The story is very readable, and outlines cases of free black women owning their husbands, free black parents selling their children into slavery to white owners, and absentee free black slave owners, who leased their slaves to plantation owners.
-”Selling Poor Steven”, American Heritage Magazine, Feb/Mar 1993 (Vol. 441) p 90

Of course, a full telling of Black History would not be complete without a recitation of the origin of slavery in the Virginia colony:
Virginia, Guide to The Old Dominion, WPA Writers’ Program, Oxford University Press, NY, 1940, p. 378

A few more salient points on the subject:
Until the US declared independence, the Colonies were REQUIRED by the King of England to embrace slavery.
The Northwest Ordinance (1789) prohibited slavery in federal territories.
A law prohibiting the importation of slaves into the US became effective in 1808.
Beginning in 1820, the Democratic Congress started passing laws allowing and encouraging slavery.

It was only after the Republican Party (many of whom were southern Blacks) was formed some 40 years later that the anti-slavery movement was able to move forward.

And the holier-than-thou Northern liberals are strangely silent on recent archeological evidence from NEW YORK CITY clearly tracing the financing of the slave trade to NORTHERN BUSINESSMEN!!

At the height of his remarkable boxing career, Muhammad Ali (born Cassius Clay), once declared, “I’m glad my great-grandpa got on that boat.”

And speaking of ancestors, my paternal grandmother’s daddy joined with the 80th Ohio Volunteer Infantry early in the War Between the States (re-upped twice) and fought on the Union side at Chickamauga, Vicksburg, Jackson then joined up with Sherman for that infamous march to the sea through Georgia. My wife’s great grandpappy ALSO fought for the Union. While I revere the memory of my ancestors, inasmuch as that conflict was less about slavery than it was the economic exploitation and abuse of the South by the North, I fear they MAY have been on the wrong side.

Author Robert Hitt Neill tells of attending a Tennessee Mountain Writer’s Conference years ago with several other authors. Among them was Alex Hailey, celebrated author of “Roots.” Watching a TV news show, a group of them watched a demonstration in a Southern state against the “Rebel” flag incorporated into that state’s flag. The very next report covered a famine in Africa. Graphic images showed dead bodies, starving children with distended tummies and runny noses and dying people covered with flies, too weak to brush them away.

Mr. Hailey intoned in a low, serious voice, “Every time an American black sees a story like that, they should find a Confederate flag and kiss it.” He then pointed to the TV screen and continued, “Because these would be me and my descendants, except for American slavery. I thank God that my family and I are here instead of there.”

Next problem!
Dick Bachert (Original created circa 2008 with edits/additions as required)

(Please feel free to use this little essay in whole or in part so long as attribution is extended to the author.. I may require some notice to permit me to enhance security here.)


23 posted on 08/01/2013 8:52:09 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”- Voltaire)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just wait’ll Egypt gets the reparations bill from Israel. Talk about compounded interest...


24 posted on 08/01/2013 10:07:41 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: angry elephant

The way this worked....because no one ever reads up on this...for centuries...tribes in Africa have fought each other. One wins...one loses.

The loser tribe is typically in one of two situations....killed instantly, or becoming a slave for the winning tribe. Along comes these white guys with some offer....a couple of cows or items of value, for the slaves. From that point on...no one much was killed instantly, and they were carted off.

You can blame African warfare or tribal instincts....but all the white Europeans did...was trade.


25 posted on 08/01/2013 10:16:36 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: RightGeek

They should sue some of the Arab elites whose ancestors sold them into slavery, like the current governments of Yemen and Saudi Arabia.


26 posted on 08/02/2013 6:24:38 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: pepsionice
The way this worked....because no one ever reads up on this...for centuries...tribes in Africa have fought each other. One wins...one loses.

american indians did the same thing

27 posted on 08/02/2013 6:40:12 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: bravo whiskey

But....American Indians never saw white trader guys in their neighborhood as a positive thing...while the tribes in Africa seemed to be ok with this. Probably some kind of analysis here, but we’d best just skip that part.


28 posted on 08/02/2013 6:44:53 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: MuttTheHoople
Yes, in a new world where they were livestock or second class citizens until 1-2 generations ago.

I don’t agree with reparations or how many black people behave today but they were treated like animals for most of their time here.

They were also bred like animals and the smart “uppity” ones were killed to perpetuate slavery. The huge amount of resulting idiots may destroy this nation. Karma doesn’t forget...

29 posted on 08/03/2013 10:11:45 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

Smart slaves were killed? You sure?


30 posted on 08/03/2013 10:19:37 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: The Toll

We know little of what actually went on in individual plantations but more intelligent slaves are obviously more likely to reject slavery and be killed. I’m not saying masters went around figuring out who was smart and killing them. By its nature, slavery simply selects for weaker thinkers because intelligent people reject it immediately.

We do know for SURE, however, that it was punishable by death for slaves to be reading in certain jurisdictions. A white man could also be punished for providing books or teaching a slave. Intelligence was obviously kept down and evidence of it was punished by death to prevent slave revolts.


31 posted on 08/03/2013 10:35:33 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For the millionth time...

The idea of a universal ban on slavery is a European idea. Before that, people were opposed to slavery...for themselves and their tribe. Everyone outside the tribe was eligible for slavery. If you tried to explain the concept of natural-born human rights for all, even enemy tribes, to someone prior to the European Enlightenment, he would look at you like you were from Mars.

And this idea of universal human rights was spread around the world by European imperialism, either by outright conquest or by overwhelming cultural influence (as in the case of Saudi Arabia which, because it was never colonized, retained the practice of slavery until cultural pressure forced the kingdom to abolish the practice in 1963).

For anyone to take “reparations” seriously one has to be dimwitted and historically ignorant to believe that slavery was something cooked up by white people. Of course, the basic “narrative” of history that leftists live by—that once upon a time the various peoples of the world lived in perfect peace with each other and with the natural world, but all this was ended with the coming of the Evil White Man with his twin scourges, Christianity and Capitalism—strongly implies this.


32 posted on 08/03/2013 11:18:24 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: Ranger Warrior

Because neither of them have any money to give :)


33 posted on 08/04/2013 10:42:58 AM PDT by Vanders9
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