What about "righties" who are wary of Ryan?
PR? Feh.
Nope. Sorry.
Is there any evidence he is to the right of Hillary? or would he run to her left?
Is there any evidence he is to the right of Hillary? or would he run to her left?
Is there any evidence he is to the right of Hillary? or would he run to her left?
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/07/ryans-crazy-plan-to-save-immigration-reform.html
So the plan he's discussing here apparently would be to bring some bills to the floor and then find out if most Republicans support them. Of course, the likely outcome is that they discover that an overwhelming majority of Republicans really don't like the bill and vote against it, but it gets 200 Democratic votes and passes, by which point it's too late.
Ryan’s numbers are only high because of recognition (being on 2012 ticket with Romney).
His immigration bill push will sink him in the primaries. Rand Paul is taking the cautious and smart approach to the issue. He’s also balancing his libertarian ideals while buttering up to the GOP establishment. All in all, unless Cruz runs (and I don’t think he does), Rand Paul is my guy.
Boehner higher than Cruz among Tea Party folks? This Poll is bogus.
oh goody, an insider RINO that can spew budget figures for president. Insiders and RINOs need not apply, they are the problem.
TED CRUZ,NO MORE VACILLATING RINOS LIKE RYAN,RUBIO,MCCAIN
McConnell is better-liked by Tea Partiers than by ‘other’ Republicans according to this poll!
Perhaps it’s just a weird poll...
(Ryan’s OK by me, if he gets an immigration enforcement law signed before tackling ‘reform’ with the Senate. But I doubt he will.)
Every Presidential election cycle, it seems the GOP puts out a field that comes up weaker than the last one.
Twelve months ago, there wasn’t a bigger fan of Paul Ryan than me. Of all the potential 2012 candidates, he would have been my first pick. While I’ve always thought he did very well in interviews, I am not sure I like his campaign style. It just wasn’t natural. Since November, he’s pretty much been lockstep with the failed House leadership on everything, and it sounds like he’s horrible on immigration. He’s not as bad as Rubio (yet) on the issue, but he’s pretty close. He’s also become invisible on other big issue, and seems to be evolving into a Washington animal.
I agree completely with the idea of dividing the immigration issue into parts and addressing them separately. Enough of the 1000+ page bills. I also think that addressing the issues separately is the way to make progress on the illegal immigration mess.
So, what should be the separate issues, and what order should they be undertaken?
I’d argue that #1 has to be border security, because without that nothing else matters. You can set all the requirements for amnesty, green cards, and citizenship that you want, but if people can still live arrive here and remain here illegally without much risk of reprisal, nothing has changed from what we now have.
Next, I’d argue that the conditions for legal residency (not citizenship, residency) should be determined in a separate bill. For example, you hold a job, are not on welfare, have been in country for a certain period of time, and have not been convicted of a crime. (Add any conditions you like; Congress will.) Under those conditions you get a green card entitling you to remain a resident. Violate certain conditions later (felony, applying for welfare, etc.) and you lose your green card.
Some people just want to live here, and have for years, possibly are even retired by now. Under certain conditions they should be granted permanent residency status (again, not citizenship, so they can’t vote.)
The next topic I’d take up would be healthcare and education, together. If a family is here legally, with a green card, and paying taxes, they should have access to education for themselves and their kids. They should also be free to purchase health insurance, or to be on an employer’s plan. Think of them as having moved from another state, rather than another country. You move to CA from Indiana, CA will educate your kids and you can get health insurance in CA. However, one requirement should be the purchase of some form of health insurance as a condition of getting a green card. No more relying upon the emergency rooms instead. No health insurance; no green card.
Note that, so far, amnesty hasn’t been addressed. That’s important. First, secure the border by law. Possibly implement a waiting period, or some sort of triggering condition before any of the other laws are either passed or become effective. Second, describe the conditions under which an alien can be here legally, and can secure access to education and healthcare. Never make them eligible for welfare or disability. They are, after all, not U.S. citizens.
Next, tackle citizenship. Just describe the process whereby an alien can attain citizenship if they entered the country illegally. Maybe they have to go to the back of the line. Maybe they can’t ever get it. Just sort it out and put it into law.
And finally, tackle amnesty. First get everything else in place. Wait until the border security program meets the standards set in the first bill. Have all the other laws in place. Then grant amnesty to everyone who comes out of the shadows. If they don’t qualify for egal residency status, send them home. If they file for welfare, food stamps, etc., send them home. If they commit a felony (including attempting to vote illegally) send them home. If they enter illegally after that, put them in Joe’s jail in AZ for a year and then send them home.
The point is to get everything in place before addressing the amnesty issue, and then grant amnesty to everyone who comes out of the shadows. They might come out, and then be sent directly home because they don’t qualify for a green card, but they would not be subject to jail time. Anyone who fails to come out under the amnesty, if found later, will spend a year in Joe’s jail before being sent home.
Taking up each of these issues separately, in roughly the order above, allows each issue to be debated on its own. Take the eligibility for green cards, for example. One provision, intended to stop thousands from flooding across the border as the bill is being proposed, could state that anyone without U.S. employment prior to, say, January of 2012 is not eligible for a green card and will automatically be sent home when they come out under the amnesty. Their choice is to risk a year in Joe’s jail if they stay, or to just come out and go home. This approach allows legislators to consider various circumstances and to tailor appropriate responses for each.
I know, “Just send them all home,” is the preferred approach for a lot of you, but it’s not going to happen. Personally, I think Ryan’s approach is a good one. Furthermore, because it can be done fairly, it is not likely to alienate a lot of Hispanics, even if it sets up a long and difficult path to citizenship.
what a stupid headlne
“retarted sir”