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To: jeffc

So true. And if anyone thinks electing a GOP president will change that they are in for a terrible disappointment.

These agencies operate on their own through unelected beauracrats. The only way to stop it is to shut them down completely.

That is not going to happen without a you know what so we will all still be ranting about this stuff when President Rand Paul or President Ted Cruz is in office. President Paul/Cruz will be publicly railing agains’t abuses by the TSA but the good old TSA will still be putting its hand down your pants.

Let me take speculation one step futher and predict that when and if both houses of Congress are back in GOP control we will still have the TSA with its hands down our pants, EPA will still be shutting down power plants, borders will still be wide open and the DOJ, FBI, NSA etc will still be using the Patriot act to listen to your phone calls and read your emails. The 30,000 drones will be flying overhead watching everything you do.

Why is that you may ask? The answer is that the Republicans love power as much as the Democrats do.


11 posted on 07/30/2013 11:24:24 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I fear that any true conservative that does make it past the media enema and gets elected if he/she is too pronounced in neutering the federal government and actually makes headway will post haste suffer an accident.


12 posted on 07/30/2013 11:32:34 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I was wondering what it would (will?) take to rein in the oversized government.

First off, a strong President (a Reagan, if we could be so lucky). Then, he would have to reorganize all the bureaucracies so they answer to him and his staff. Move people around to different places and different jobs so as to break up the liberal chummies working together to advance the liberal doctrine and inhibit any conservative tendencies. Fire anyone who doesn't do their job as instructed (downsize everything, for a start).

IDK, though. I still believe it can be done, but, like anything as massive as our feral government, you have to start somewhere and the best place to do that is from the inside.

15 posted on 07/30/2013 12:00:47 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
These agencies operate on their own through unelected beauracrats. The only way to stop it is to shut them down completely.
That is not going to happen without a you know what

What a [civil-]war? No, there are actually ways to effectively eliminate them w/o violence, like simply enforcing these two laws:

  1. 18 USC § 241 - Conspiracy against rights
  2. 18 USC § 242 - Deprivation of rights under color of law
Applied to every person in, say the BATFE whose whole existence violates the Constitution (2nd Amendment), would eviscerate that agency. (Same for NSA and the 4th.)
21 posted on 07/30/2013 2:34:35 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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