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Group sues FBI for records after Michael Hastings’ mysterious death
The Daily Caller ^ | 30 Jul 2013 | Josh Peterson

Posted on 07/30/2013 7:57:59 AM PDT by mandaladon

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In the hours before his death, which was ruled an accident by the Los Angeles Police Department, Hastings emailed Wikileaks’ lawyer Jennifer Robinson that he was being investigated by the federal government............Coincidence?
1 posted on 07/30/2013 7:57:59 AM PDT by mandaladon
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On July 24, Forbes revealed that computer security researcher team Chris Miller and Chris Valasek could wirelessly manipulate a moving automobile with a laptop. Miller and Valasek’s work served to bolster speculation that Hastings’s vehicle was hijacked via a cyber attack, resulting in his tragic death on June 18.....................This is the most interesting part of this case.
2 posted on 07/30/2013 7:59:47 AM PDT by mandaladon (The truth about Benghazi is all I want)
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To: mandaladon

al Jazeera is hitting the ground running.


3 posted on 07/30/2013 8:00:34 AM PDT by DBrow
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FYI


4 posted on 07/30/2013 8:00:51 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: mandaladon

BookMark

Dear Lord, please guide our course.
Tatt


5 posted on 07/30/2013 8:10:12 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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Well, it’s not actually part of this case, since there is no evidence that anyone “hacked” Hasting’s vehicle. It’s just wanton speculation.


6 posted on 07/30/2013 8:28:43 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: mandaladon; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...
On July 24, Forbes revealed that computer security researcher team Chris Miller and Chris Valasek could wirelessly manipulate a moving automobile with a laptop. Miller and Valasek’s work served to bolster speculation that Hastings’s vehicle was hijacked via a cyber attack, resulting in his tragic death on June 18.....................

This is the most interesting part of this case.

To me, the most interesting part is that Barnaby Jack who was hired to do just that abruptly dropped dead at age 30. No cause of death released...

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7 posted on 07/30/2013 8:30:03 AM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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What evidence of hacking would you expect to survive the explosion, fire and crash?

What evidence would you expect the government to find?


8 posted on 07/30/2013 8:34:02 AM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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In less than 15 years, it will be mandatory for all vehicles to have black boxes. Any older vehicle without one will need to be retrofitted. Not retrofitting an older vehicle will be illegal and punishable by a fine and possibly prison.

It will be impossible to move around freely. They’ll know where you are at all times. They monitor your sleep patterns via your phone’s camera. They monitor your Internet usage. They monitor when you go to and from work. They monitor if you use public transportation. They monitor if you move about by bus or plane. They monitor your location with the GPS in your phone. They monitor when you start your workday and when you leave. They monitor how much you spend online and at points of sale. With Obamacare, they’ll monitor everything about your health and your body and determine if you are eligible to be saved if you become gravely ill.

We are no longer free people, and I fear humanity, barring a direct X-class flare or nuclear holocaust, will never be free again.


9 posted on 07/30/2013 8:34:44 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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The list, Ping

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10 posted on 07/30/2013 8:37:50 AM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b47_1374871648


11 posted on 07/30/2013 8:38:49 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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“What evidence of hacking would you expect to survive the explosion, fire and crash?

What evidence would you expect the government to find?”

One would have to assume that evidence existed in the first place in order to answer those questions, which I will not. You don’t assume an outlandish possibility happened, without evidence, and then make excuses as to why you can’t produce the evidence. Instead, one should assume the outlandish possibility did not happen until evidence can be produced to the contrary.


12 posted on 07/30/2013 8:41:27 AM PDT by Boogieman
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MOM.

Motive
Opportunity
Means


13 posted on 07/30/2013 8:46:30 AM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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there is no evidence that anyone “hacked” Hasting’s vehicle.

I agree, it's a fertile field for speculation, especially since the article on vehicle hacking came out, but I'm very dubious on this wreck being caused by sinister elements.

14 posted on 07/30/2013 8:50:35 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: rarestia

Very well put.


15 posted on 07/30/2013 8:51:52 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a 9 yr old son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: null and void

That’s a nice pop culture mnemonic, but you still need to actually have evidence that the crime happened, which you don’t have.


16 posted on 07/30/2013 9:06:37 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: null and void

Wasn’t the body cremated before the family was notified?


17 posted on 07/30/2013 9:16:02 AM PDT by sarasota
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the ‘hits’ list just keeps growing.....


18 posted on 07/30/2013 9:20:18 AM PDT by Nifster
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Pop culture? You do know that's the mnemonic for the elements of evidence needed for a circumstantial case, don't you?

They are necessary (but not by themselves sufficient) elements for a criminal case to proceed.

In this particular case, they are augmented by deliberate destruction of evidence in direct violation of the families wishes, the fact that the pizzeria surveillance video shows a flash before the car collides with the palm tree, the sudden and unexplained death of a skilled hacker known to have been working on software take-overs of motor vehicles, the total and instant involvement of the crashed vehicle in fire, and the distance of the engine and transmission from the main crash scene, and the fact that the victim notified his friends that he needed to get out of dodge because he found out something.

But if you're happier thinking your government would never resort to force to control us, more power to you in your blissful little bubble.

19 posted on 07/30/2013 9:24:34 AM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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Pray tell, how would you prove it was hacked? You can’t. If there was a hack, it more than likely was not stored in the non-volatile memory of the car systems impacted by the hack. You can verify this yourself, if you have the technical know how.

So in this case, if you could get it to jury trial, it would have to be about the circumstances surrounding what happened.

Many crimes have no *direct evidence*, and yet someone gets convicted. That is why we have juries.

I would love this sent to trial, but no one knows who to prosecute.


20 posted on 07/30/2013 9:25:18 AM PDT by Aqua225 (Realist)
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