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To: Grampa Dave
I learned two very important words from my high school Latin: Cui Bono which means who benefits.

Qui bono is a way to identify a suspicion; it does not establish fact. What you have done is to apply it unevenly, in a manner every bit as self-reinforcing as any leftist propagandist.

What you have a suspicion, you test it. The problem for you is that this assertion flunks the test of research. It is an assumption not supported by data. Here on FR, we use DATA, with sources because we're tired of propaganda and believe in facts. I have never once seen you back up your otherwise legitimate hypothesis with substantial evidence.

Do it. Back it up with facts. You agreed that 90% of the funding for the greenies comes from OPEC. Prove it.

My comment re the Opecker Princes does not just include the Saudi Opeckers, it includes all of the Opecker Thug/Princes/serial killing despots in control of their govenments.

This isn't about one "comment" and you know it. You've been babbling "Opecker Princes" being the primary funding source behind the greens for over a decade. So, I won't take your slimy redefinition of what it is to be in OPEC so that you can weasel out of the corner into which you've painted yourself. You have an unambiguous record that routinely does not mention American affiliates and beneficiaries of green racketeering as "Opecker Princes." The US is not a member of OPEC, nor are there any "Princes" here.

Any doubt that they would not fund the green eco terrorists pseudo non profits to sabotage any hope of an energy independent and energy exporting America?

I have doubts, because I have not found substantial evidence of OPEC funding for green groups extending over decades. So, prove your assertion; head on over to activistcash.com and start digging, because I know what you'll find and it isn't much.

On the other hand, "qui bono" certainly indicates that the major stockholders of American, British, and French oil companies (not to mention the Russians) DO benefit from green racketeering. I have DATA showing that it is primarily those very Americans using tax-exempt "charitable" foundations to fund the greens for over fifty years. It started long before OPEC even existed. It was BP and Shell money that started the World Wildlife Fund and the IUCN. It was BP money that started Greenpeace. It was Exxon/Mobil money that started the Environmental Grantmakers Association. It was Sunoco, Citgo, and Exxon money that founded the NRDC.

Cui bono is the bs eliminator when those in life don't want the real truth out in the world.

Interestingly, you, Dave, have consistently avoided including American investors in your charges. Why is that Dave? Is it because of stocks you own?

Qui bono?

The Arabs have been bit players by comparison in American environmental groups. You have been betrayed. Deal with it.

105 posted on 07/30/2013 8:30:21 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indentured constituency for 150 years.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Yep, I feel betrayed.


106 posted on 07/30/2013 9:07:36 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Having a discussion with liberals is like shearing pigs. Lots of squealing & little fleece!)
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To: Carry_Okie

Re investments:

Mostly cds: 80%

Some etfs: BOND, USMV, DIV, AOM, HDV

Mutual Funds: GLRBX, PVSAX, FPACX

I haven’t invested in single companies for over a decade, and I avoid the energy etfs and funds.

Please don’t bother me any more. At age 74, I don’t waste my time talking to time wasters.


107 posted on 07/30/2013 9:36:08 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Having a discussion with liberals is like shearing pigs. Lots of squealing & little fleece!)
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