[stanne]

The argument is not what is the interpretation of the Church position, but unless i admit that the Church is judgmental, ignorant and deserving of scorn the conversation will be open

My side of the argument is the request to have a direct quote stating the assertion that unless one is a Catholic (while alive, obviously), one cannot be saved

I guess i appreciate your attempt to assist, but ido not read theological arguments from a source whose credentials are not bona fide

Your argument will not win over those who are now invested in this debate, as you could see

They cannotproduce the sentence and i am not wasting effort trying to convice them

Yhe job is for they, who made the assertion, to simply produce the evidence

They cannot. So i am done with the debate

They’ll come up like the black knight its only a flesh wound but tgey will not win

But they will not read interpreted catholic interpretation

They spend much of tgeir lives arguing falsehoods catholics are not going to come out ahead in that activity

[Wonder Warthog]

Not the way I see it. The quotes have been provided from multiple legitmate sources. The Church specifically DOES say "there is no salvation outside the Church". Simply put, you lost, don't have the personal integrity to admit it and are weaseling out. But what I said was the correct understanding THAT THE CHURCH HAS OF ITSELF, and what that means for those who are not in communion with it during their lives ON EARTH.

Those who are interpreting "there is no salvation outside the Church" as "you gotta be Catholic to be saved" are also wrong (in the sense of having an incorrect view of the Church's position).