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To: stanne
I beg to differ. From the Catechism (846):

846 “Outside the Church there is no salvation” How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers?335

Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body: (161, 1257) Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.336

However, for those to whom the Gospel has not been preached:

847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience—those too may achieve eternal salvation.337

179 posted on 07/29/2013 8:31:43 AM PDT by LisaFab
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To: LisaFab

Differ with what?

You’re stating my point nicely

Catholics can achoeve salvation only through the Church

That is NOT the same as no one can achieve salvation but through the Church


207 posted on 07/29/2013 9:07:09 AM PDT by stanne
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To: LisaFab
Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body: (161, 1257) Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation;

No truth to that whatsoever...You catechism is lying to you...

And this lie is not based upon scripture...No salvation comes thru any church...

The church is necessary for salvation??? Ridiculous...Salvation is necessary for the church...

he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door.

NO...Jesus is not present to us in His body...Jesus is present within Christians in the person of the Holy Spirit...

No one in the bible ever talked about the necessity of a church...The church is the result of souls being saved...

Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.336

I got a sneaking hunch that those who refuse to enter your religion and those who refuse to remain in your religion make the mistake of thinking your religion was founded by God...So I don't see where that would apply to anyone...

447 posted on 07/29/2013 7:59:22 PM PDT by Iscool
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