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Unarmed teen shot inside homeowner's fenced yard, but not breaking into home, NOPD warrant says
NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune ^ | 27 July 2013 | Naomi Martin & Helen Freund

Posted on 07/27/2013 7:54:27 AM PDT by Yo-Yo

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To: Trailerpark Badass

You are right. i considered that after I hit post. My question is, Why does the article call it a burglary?


121 posted on 07/27/2013 9:44:45 AM PDT by Pfesser (I miss President Reagan.)
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To: CitizenUSA
No doubt the media vermin will be along to express the sorrow of Americans that an blooming entrepreneur has been shot down before reaching his prime in life. The resident community race baiter-in-chief will go on national TV to tell us that if he had a son ... and the usual race agitators will bemoan the fact that this poor child had great expectations in life, if only whitey had not squelched his talents.

And as silly as that sounds, if little barry bassturd boy needs more distraction from the criminal acts he is perpetrating to destroy America, his strawboss holder will hype this to the max, even sending unJustice dept. monies down NO way to foment more unrest which the regime will exploit by herding black people by their magic thinking.

122 posted on 07/27/2013 9:47:01 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: IrishBrigade

This could go two ways.
One could be very bad for everyone.

Personally I would not have gone there in this environment.

I am all about self defense, and I certainly believe in property rights, but this clown could help us lose our property rights by not being aware of the political season.

On the other hand he might just be the guy to put this stuff to rest

Personally I would have flipped on the porch light.
If that did not do it I would call the cops.

If things persisted, Then if the punk was still menacing..

I know my view is not popular, but my view is one that I think protects me.
I don’t want a lot of questions from the DA
I sure as hell dont need the disruption of a Grand Jury over a bike or some such thing.


123 posted on 07/27/2013 9:47:02 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: gitmo

Dead punks older brother.


124 posted on 07/27/2013 9:47:35 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: jy8z

I just say keep it clean.


125 posted on 07/27/2013 9:48:36 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: All

Just a funny aside about society.

Have you ever noticed that you can have some broken down POS like a lawnmower with a bent shaft and you can’t get the PAID garbage collection people to dispose of it, but if you put it on the front lawn with a sign that says for sale $50, some one will steal it?


126 posted on 07/27/2013 9:53:54 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

I am all about self defense, and I certainly believe in property rights, but this clown could help us lose our property rights by not being aware of the political season.

...and, as much as this property owner should not have to take such considerations at the time of a burglary, I think you’ve hit the mark...and this poor guy is going to be victimized by not considering the timing of his ‘action’...

...a ridiculous state of affairs, really...


127 posted on 07/27/2013 9:55:18 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: ogen hal

100%.


128 posted on 07/27/2013 9:56:47 AM PDT by Carriage Hill
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To: mylife
Have you ever noticed that you can have some broken down POS like a lawnmower with a bent shaft and you can’t get the PAID garbage collection people to dispose of it, but if you put it on the front lawn with a sign that says for sale $50, some one will steal it?

I like that. "Lawn mower $50 - bring cash only after 5:00 p.m. when we get home." ;-)

129 posted on 07/27/2013 9:56:55 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Timber Rattler

If I saw this bug within my fenced yard at 2 in the morning, I would not see a 14 year old kid. I’d see a black person headed to my house and my loved ones. I would see a threat. I think I would have needed more in my mind to justify shooting the punk, but he would be at great risk until I knew he was no longer a threat.


130 posted on 07/27/2013 9:57:38 AM PDT by Gator113
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To: IrishBrigade
as much as this property owner should not have to take such considerations at the time

Correct, but there's the rub.

131 posted on 07/27/2013 9:57:50 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: CitizenUSA
The Skittles Rule: When someone is breaking into your home or trying to kill you, you must verify age and protected-race-class and frisk them for weapons before you can defend yourself.
132 posted on 07/27/2013 10:00:16 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: mylife

Partially paralyzed punk.


133 posted on 07/27/2013 10:02:15 AM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Now this here is a serious issue.
Holder wont let us card them.
It would be racist!


134 posted on 07/27/2013 10:02:45 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: UnwashedPeasant
Tuco's rule: When You have to shoot, shoot! Don't Talk
135 posted on 07/27/2013 10:07:44 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

The source shows the fenced in area being right up against the house. I don’t know how NOPD could say the kid didn’t pose a threat.


136 posted on 07/27/2013 10:10:25 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: ClearCase_guy
If Obama had a son, he’d be severely brain damaged.

Like father, like son.

137 posted on 07/27/2013 10:14:13 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: All

Of course Tuco’s rule allows plenty of time for further talk, and talk they will.

Did He have to fire 6 shots? why did he have a high capacity military style Dragoon?

Blah Blah Blah.


138 posted on 07/27/2013 10:14:47 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife
So a person's rights to safety in the home is dependent upon the flow of the news cycle? When ‘massive’ Treyvon protests draw a whole 200 people covered by 150 media and 200 police?

I understand your viewpoint. And sure, that might work in certain situations; but when someone is in your gated side yard, apparently with no fear of a large dog, and standing near your back door, I'd call you a fool if you walked over and turned on the light, announcing your exact position to an unknown less than five feet away.

I'm taking some wild conjecture here, but this is my guess as to how things went down. Dog's barking in the back yard. Homeowner assumes that something is up out front - maybe at a neighbor's house. He arms himself and goes to the front door, opens it, and spots the ‘lookout’ across the street. He steps out of the house and into his front yard.

Lookout across the street warns his partner who is in the side yard, behind a 6 foot fence next to the car and the homeowner’s back door. Homeowner turns towards his house, sees someone moving next to his car and fires.

The unidentified witness is likely the lookout for the trespasser with at least one burglary arrest. He likely told police that the homeowner didn't warn or say freeze, which differed from the homeowner’s story.

I do not think that the homeowner knew someone was in the side yard; I can not see him leaving his family exposed with a possible escape route for the perp that puts them in greater danger. I think the homeowner was surprised and acted accordingly. And I think that like in many cases, our stories change the facts, as we insert what we think we should have done.

In any case, there's no cause for a 2nd degree attempted murder charge. And here's where I think that we agree - the climate of the news cycle compelled police who had two differing stories to file charges, letting the DA sort it out. I do not think charges would have been filed and the case instead referred to the DA were it not for the massive news coverage of Zimmerman's self defense.

139 posted on 07/27/2013 10:15:35 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Yo-Yo
...he was a professional thief, sure...

A 14-year-old professional thief. Nothing like a skilled trade.

140 posted on 07/27/2013 10:16:43 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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