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To: Whenifhow
Thanks for the link. Listening/pausing - in sections, as it's long. Bachmann was one of the first up...here's a brief snippet/recap of what she said....

National security is a clear and present danger...a false narrative has emerged that the gov't is taking in content of American's phone calls/emails...not true....not happening.

We need to deal in facts and facts are these: The only people benefiting from this (Amash) bill/protected would be islamic jihadists....

Whoever agrees to this (amendment) today would agree to handcuff ourselves and our allies, by restricting ourselves. Let's not deal in false narratives- let us deal in facts that will keep American people safe.

She said more...something about only the outside of our letters being looked at, not what's inside (4th amendment rights). Frankly, I was pretty much shocked listening to Rep Bachmann.

Rep Sensenbrenner was up next...just listened to the beginning....he's for the bill/against NSA's overreach....and, he's one of the original sponsors of The Patriot Act. Says it's gone too far.

121 posted on 07/25/2013 6:30:24 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Jane Long; All

James Sensenbrenner GOES OFF At Fisa Hearing. You Can’t Have It Both Ways

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHJX-Hhd_4w

(Near end of video) You are having it both ways.
Section 215 expires at the end of 2015 and there are not the votes to renew it. You have to change how you operate.

And listen to Conyers!
John Conyers: This Must Be Stopped Immediately. Fisa Hearing 7/17/2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3w2fQVKJ14

You have already violated the law.
To document the first question asked – why didn’t we tell everyone, because they would be outraged!
We skip over whether it was a 4th amendment violation.
I see this as a complete failure – you know we changed the patriot act because of this very problem.
It must be stopped immediately.

snip

My time is expired, it is clear to me that we have a very serious violation of the law. The judiciary committee deliberately put in the issue of relevance.

Full Hearing:
4 hours 15 minutes

James Cole introduced at 14 min
Robert S Litt introduced at 15 min
John C. Inglis introduced at 16 min
Stephanie Douglas – introduced at 17 min

House Judiciary Committee Hearing On NSA Spying & Fisa Court Authorities

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGOtUBOMqns


124 posted on 07/25/2013 6:45:13 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Jane Long

Looking at the outsides of letters is the same thing: get the noose around all your contacts, just in case. Chilling.


129 posted on 07/25/2013 7:17:16 AM PDT by firebrand
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