Posted on 07/24/2013 6:11:49 AM PDT by xzins
I understand what you are thinking. If you are watching the political process, you are probably thinking, as a sane person, that Republicans would completely ignore amnesty and focus on whats important. After all, the country is focused on other trivial news, summer vacations, and the scandals. After August, the main fights will be over funding Obamacare, the budget, and the debt ceiling.
So why on earth would Republicans push for amnesty, especially after the Senate bill has been ridiculed and repudiated? Why would they bail out Obama at his weakest moment? Why would they agree to the premise that we must have some form of amnesty now, thereby bleeding conservatives dry on the issue drip by drip?
There is no good answer to these questions other than the fact that Republican leaders are looking for a new base. Unfortunately, their dictates are strong enough to percolate down to the committee chairmen. Trey Gowdys subcommittee on immigration held a hearing today on the Dream Act a mass amnesty bill that will grant citizenship and welfare rights to a large population of illegals. Basically, we control the House, but are using the committee hearings to promote Democrat policies.
Here is what the committee leaders had to say:
I do not believe that parents who made the decision to illegally enter the U.S. while forcing their children to join them should be afforded the same treatment as these kids, House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) said.
Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), who chairs the House subcommittee that oversees immigration issues, said children are treated differently in nearly all facets of life and are seen as a special protected class. That was why the younger immigrants should have a separate solution than those of their parents, Gowdy argued.
Attempts to group the entire 11 million into one homogenous group in an effort to secure a political remedy will only wind up hurting the most vulnerable, Gowdy said in his opening comments.
The problem is that these people are not vulnerable and they are not in the shadows. They testify openly before Congress; they disrupt committee hearings; they harass members of Congress in their offices. There is no national emergency to deal with this issue now.
Moreover, there are a number of problems that are being overlooked in this process:
***Once you accept the argument that these people are entitled to citizenship, just be honest with the fact that it will metastasize into millions more. There is no way their immediate family members will ever be sent back. So yes, this is ostensibly amnesty for almost everyone. We are basically expanding our anchor baby policy to include anchor teenagers, essentially telegraphing the message that as long as you come here illegally with children, youre here to stay.
***Once they obtain green cards or citizenship, they will be eligible to bring in more family members and spawn more chain migration. Again, Republicans might start out with something blocking family members and chain migration, but that will never stand in the long run. Those provisions will either be inserted into conference, or inevitably revised down the road.
***Has anyone thought about the cost of legalizing such a young and poor demographic? The cost to education and welfare? If they get an expedited path to citizenship, they will all be eligible for the full array of programs.
Im seeing too many good members getting conned by leadership. They are injecting their abstract sympathies, which may be appropriate in the right time, into a political process that will not end well. If we had a president who was willing to enforce the laws and work with Congress to cut off the magnet of future waves of illegal migration, then we could discuss such a proposal.
Any discussion of this now will only lend credence to the Democrat premise of inevitability, give Obama cover for his other failures, and immediately incentivize new waves of illegal immigration. Instead of the narrative revolving around how much up-front enforcement Democrats are willing to agree to, the storyline will be dominated by how much amnesty Republicans are willing to talk about as a precondition to negotiations.
So if you are putting your faith in the Republican House to stop this amnesty, remember not to use logic when crafting that assumption. Boehner, Cantor, and McConnell want this badly, and they are not giving up.
We'll be REVISITING the same question a decade from now.
Horowitz points out the obvious: They aren't going to let a kid stay and kick out his parents who are his source of support. And that means they'll have to green card the parents, and then the grandparents, and then the uncles/aunts/cousins.
This is just sneaky amnesty.
One step at a time.
Step 1: Totally control access to this nation.
Step 2: Refer to step 1.
We are witnessing the Fabian’s endgame.
There is a small but powerful minority in the GOP which is pushing Amnesty.
Push back. Hard.
They are a minority.
Do not let them get away with this sell-out.
I’m all for trying to send them all back. You start rounding them up, word on the streets will spread and a bunch will go back on their own. Cut welfare from able bodies Americans to pay for it and let them slide into the jobs he illegals have, shoveling crap or manual labor. Make them responsible for their lives instead of blood sucking leaches off us taxpayers.
There is no real urgency to grant amnesty now. Illegal immigrants have been freely entering this country since the late 1980s when amnesty was granted to millions of illegal immigrants. As a consequence we now have tens of millions of illegal immigrants, and more continuing to come into our country.
The urgent problem is our leaky borders that allow the invasion to continue. The urgency is for our lawmakers to enforce the laws on the books, and to secure our borders.
Then it makes sense to take whatever time is needed to develop a compassionate, meaningful way to citizenship for the illegal aliens already here.
So why on earth would Republicans push for amnesty
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The party doesn’t really stand for anything. The careerist RINO’s have infested the party and only want to “compromise” with Dems so they can get a few table scraps and keep their do-nothing jobs.
The Republican Party wants our votes and money, but not our principles and values.
And then the clueless leadership wonders why people are abandoning the party.
Pandering in the hope of getting their votes, but amnesty isn’t going to be enough. They want cash and the dems will provide it.
One that will blindly pull the lever without asking questions or demanding results.
The Dems want amnesty so they can make themselves the permanent major party sooner. Under the current immigration policies, they will become the permanent majority party anyway. Amnesty just hastens the process.
The Reps want a massive increase in guest workers as demanded by their corporate paymasters. They will concede almost anything to get it.
Religious, labor, and ethnic groups are supporting it for reasons of power, money, and increased constituencies even if it means destruction of the country.
The big losers are the American worker and the country, which will be flooded by cheap labor from the Third World.
Then it makes sense to take whatever time is needed to develop a compassionate, meaningful way to citizenship for the illegal aliens already here.
BS. There should be no citizenship for lawbreakers who flaunted our laws in multiple ways including working illegally, tax evasion, ID theft, misuse of SSNs, etc. When you reward something you get more of it. Attrition thru enforcement is the right approach for these lawbreakers. Save your compassion for the 4 million intending immigrants waiting their turn to enter overseas. They completed all the paperwork, background checks, physicals, etc.
FYI: 40% of the illegals who are in the country came here legally and overstayed their visas. Securing the border solves only part of the problem.
The minority pushing Amnesty in the GOP are the ones with the money. The ones who want to buy access to cheap labor.
And that money allows them to speak more loudly than the rest of us.
Strangely it seems we’ve come full circle and are nearly in agreement with the DUmmies on that one.
Blackmail and bribes.
The two men I have placed the most faith in, Paul Ryan and Trey Gowdy, have become corrupt—or always were.
They have one job: the economy!
They can’t do one job!
I think there is a segment of the GOP which is trying to rule those of us also in the GOP, as much as they are trying to beat Democrats.
Perhaps more.
I think Palin is waiting to see how this turns out.
After it turns out, it could be too late
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I dunno.
The illegal immigration battle will hinge on two things I think.
First off, on this battle right now in the House.
I think this is what Palin is waiting on, to see whether the GOP goes for America, or for illegal immigration.
Number two, on the mid-terms.
I think Palin will have picked a side, long before then.
GOP will be split, just barely enough will join the Dems to pass this crap
sound familiar?
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