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To: John S Mosby

Who were the rightful holders?


22 posted on 07/23/2013 9:13:16 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Mr. President, can you hear a special prosecutor now?)
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To: Rennes Templar
Edward the IV is said to be a bastard son of an archer, not a Tudor descendant of the then Duke of York. Edward's supposed father Richard of York was nowhere around his mother at the “back calculated time of conception” July through August 1441. The Duke of York was on campaign in Pontoise at this time, as recorded in the Rouen cathedral records where prayers were offered for his safety while on campaign.

Edward was born April 28th, 1442- and while there's no reason to say he couldn't have been prematurely born (though that would seem to have been something they would have noted because of risks to true claims to the throne) the 9 months back from that puts Edward being conceived when his “father” was not there at all. Edward's christening was a hushed up affair, and Edward looked nothing like his supposed father, and his own mother swore in a legal deposition Edward was a bastard. Following the War of the Roses, the only claimant left was Henry the VII who married Edward the IVth’s daughter Elizabeth of York.

The entire descent from this thin claim to the throne, including Henry the VIII is posited to be illegitimate, all the way to the Windsors, and the current queen. Of course Edward IV could have still claimed the throne by right of conquest. If all of the above were proven then the line of monarchy should have extended the Plantagenets. Henry VIII made sure the only surviving Plantagenet, Margaret Duchess of Salisbury was executed (Edward Earl of Warwick died locked away in the Tower previously) and so the line died out, as far at the throne from there on.

The actor who played baldrich on Black Adder did an intriguing BBC documentary of interest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF2YaQgJwH8

This is all well and good....but who the heck cares in the USA, where we long ago renounced ANY king of England. And certainly not king obamaumao of the US

58 posted on 07/23/2013 11:06:26 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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