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To: Ray76

Do you know of any court ruling that differentiates between a Citizen of the United Ststes AT birth and a Citizen of the United Sates BY birth?

Using your own words, a person who at a point in time (birth) was a Citizen of the United States doesn’t seem in any way distinct from a person whose birth caused them to be a citizen or a person whose citizenship was caused by the circumstances of their birth.


501 posted on 07/26/2013 8:37:14 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

A person born in country to citizen has always been a citizen in law, without statute.


502 posted on 07/26/2013 8:41:19 PM PDT by Ray76 (Common sense immigration reform: Enforce Existing Law)
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To: Nero Germanicus; Ray76
Do you know of any court ruling that differentiates between a Citizen of the United Ststes AT birth and a Citizen of the United Sates BY birth?

Great question.

I'd bet there is none.

Using your own words, a person who at a point in time (birth) was a Citizen of the United States doesn’t seem in any way distinct from a person whose birth caused them to be a citizen or a person whose citizenship was caused by the circumstances of their birth.

Or, to put it another way:

If a person isn't a citizen by birth, then how is it even possible for that person to be a citizen at birth?

I just don't see that it is. And I don't see that any judge or court would EVER see it differently.

505 posted on 07/27/2013 8:11:18 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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