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To: Jeff Winston
Cruz is eligible should he decide to run.

No Jeff, Cruz is NOT eligible, but he might be able to run if nobody files a challenge. If they do, he's going to get tripped up by Rogers v Bellei. "Conditional" citizenship is not "natural" citizenship.

And that's all the time I'm going to waste on you.

434 posted on 07/25/2013 2:33:25 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
No Jeff, Cruz is NOT eligible, but he might be able to run if nobody files a challenge. If they do, he's going to get tripped up by Rogers v Bellei. "Conditional" citizenship is not "natural" citizenship.

There's no case that Rogers v. Bellei means absolutely jack.

And that's all the time I'm going to waste on you.

No, it isn't. You'll dance when I say dance. You'll keep responding to my posts, because if you don't, it'll be completely obvious that all your stuff is just BS.

I mean, it's obvious anyway. But your only hope of keeping even a few people in the dark is to keep wasting your time and posting your BS.

450 posted on 07/25/2013 3:46:33 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: DiogenesLamp; Jeff Winston
Cruz is NOT eligible, but he might be able to run if nobody files a challenge. If they do, he's going to get tripped up by Rogers v Bellei.

After a quick skim of the decision, I find I'm tending agree with you. Regardless of whether indisputably natural-born citizens have ever been stripped of their citizenship, the Rogers decision seems to pretty clearly say that acquiring citizenship by being born abroad to an American mother is a form of naturalization. I may have argued against that in the past, but if so I have to reconsider.

At the same time, I also note the decision says

We thus have an acknowledgment that our law in this area follows English concepts with an acceptance of the jus soli, that is, that the place of birth governs citizenship status except as modified by statute.
I believe you've recently been arguing that our law in this area does not follow English concepts, and that place of birth is not the determining factor. Time to reconsider?
464 posted on 07/25/2013 7:01:08 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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