Posted on 07/18/2013 3:37:50 PM PDT by neverdem
I am not an MD, don't pretend to be, but I have found in my life and in the personal stories of others that the things I talk about do work. Most of the stuff you quoted I cannot buy. I really do not care to share my medical history or my stories publicly, in my experience with that it is only used to be mocked at anyway.
Are you aware of the omega 3 and omega 6 balance issues with breast cancer? How about the use of vitamin D as a chemotherapy drug? I am sincerely not mocking, I am just curious as to if these two had reached you yet. I am taking your MD at face value.
Like I said, if I was in an accident, I would head to the emergency room to get patched up, and get the heck out of there. I find Doctors to be some of the best of the best, I find pharmaceuticals to be a horrible way to do business. My battle is not with doctors, my battle is with disease and its causes.
Now if I had someone very close to me who had cancer and they sought out some “alternative” treatments in compliment to and along with traditional medicine
You and I are in complete agreement. I would add that if you walk away from a Medical doctor to try and find your way through all the hokum out there you are most likely going to die. Medicinal practices are proven methods. Most of the stuff that passes for Naturopatic you have listed are frankly crap. But a good Naturopath medically trained is a great second opinion. They will help steer you around the garbage. Every single one of the things you listed in the madam cleo paragraph is total bunk, that is the 80% I have heard of. So we can clear things up by flushing that toilet.
But, to walk a strictly MD pharma solution is almost as bad. Nobody has all the answers and when you drift into symptomatic relief you are in very dangerous territory also.
Actually what I value the most in trying to figure out alternative medicine issues is First, personal testimony, and secondly medical studies. Thirdly frankly does not exist. If you cannot show results in a study, done with a wide enough test base you have no card to play.
However on the other hand, if I read posts about people trying to clear up ring worm with pharmaceuticals, paying lots of money and not being able to get results, then they try a naturopathic method that has immediate results? That to me is a small scale test. If I am unfortunate enough to have to try it on myself and it works, that also counts.
How many people survive breast cancer? Quite a few these days, specially with a double mastectomy to accomplish it. Hey, it works. If its broke hack it off does get rid of the immediate problem. But, if you were to read of many others that found an alternative method, and it also worked, would that not garner a try? If you found a medical study that found a 50% remission rate of breast cancer by a double blind study preformed on over 2000 women with flax seed oil would that not substantiate it? Why you would think that it would be news paper headlines.
It wasn't. Go figure.
As fungal issues are systemic and carried by the blood, just hacking out the tumor may be ignoring a major infection that will just crop up later in another organ.
Nuking the body to near death with radiation and poisonous chemicals might just cure it.
or a diet heavy on cinnamon, oregano, garlic and oak leaf rotated every two weeks could do it too. No burns, no puking and it costs about a hundred grand less.
When you see multiple studies with 50 to 500 people in them showing a around a 40% mean reduction in heart problems with 400 units of D-alpha-trophiperol daily, that would mean something. But if then the American Heart Association put up a counter study of 9 whole people, with L Alpha Trophiperol that actually increased heart problems, followed by a large campaign to get people to stop taking vitamin E it is a thing that makes you go Hmmm.
Because L Alpha Trophipherol is known to be flushed by the body as its is artificial and it actually reduced the levels of natural vitamin E in so doing.
Was the American Heart Association greedy in making such a small and easily biased study? (Or kind to not kill more study people) or just stupid in ignoring the L vs D issue. Because that add campaign make a lot more people die and made them more money. So it isn't kind. Sadly it isn't stupid either in my opinion. But very very greedy.
That is a primary issue that my offense comes from and some of my passion on the issue. A second layer is that Bush signed a compliance law with European medicine that will make the access to non traditional medicines all under doctor control in the near future, in compliance with European laws.
That will kill a lot more.
I don't like that.
The flax study was done in the UK by the way. Don't have a copy or a link. Doug Kaufman on his site has quoted from it, I suspect you can get a link from him.
He also is a big pusher of the alkaline diet idea, if you dare hold your nose you might learn a bit of the other sides reasoning on the issue. It is mostly about influencing the digestive tract, and why.
I by the way, did try his phase one diet, it really helped me. However I would not consider my endorsement a blank check, at the same time as I was doing the phase one diet (ph and simple sugar control) I was taking natural anti fungal foods and vitamins. I know that I beat a systemic fungal blood infection I had carried for years during that time, and a sinus fungus infection I had had all my life.
Was it the diet? The Ph balance or the vitamins or the anti fungals? Cant tell you, might have been all of the above. But I can breath through my nose now, never was able to before. I am no longer allergic to a half a dozen foods, I have great energy and sleep well and rise rested. And my cholesterol dropped by over 200 points in a month. It has stayed down when I returned to a normal diet sans so dang much sugar. (But, I eat desert every night so I am not religious about it).
This stuff I am so passionate about, is because it has worked to change my life. And some of my friends lives.
For example, a lady going to our church had MS. She resisted changing her diet till the doctor basically said to her, get your stuff in order, there is nothing left I can do. At that point she could not use her hands and feet, was wheelchair bound and had tunnel vision.
Then she tried a diet change. Her vision is now normal, she does not use a wheel chair and is still alive. And, still has MS. She is religious about organic food and juicing and has gone way beyond me that way. But like me, she is quite passionate.
I know, its impossible MS is irreversible. But try telling her that. Silly woman just will not listen. I do not advocate ignoring doctors, I do advocate getting one that is newer out of school as science is catching up on a few of these things. I by the way have medical insurance. I am not a nature nut, which Pharma nuts always assume. It gets tiring.
But what I write about, works, and if you break your arm, there is not a salve that beats a cast.
But if you have a tumor, and you have a doctor monitoring it, alternate things can be tried. If the tumor grows flipping get surgery. But if it "spontaneously remits" skip the surgery and chemo and radiation.
But Mexico can be a better source for surgeons because they do not have their hands tied by the FDA. Instead of insutro biopsy, you can just get the lump removed. Then if you are curious, biopsy the lump in the jar. But to puncture the lump in the breast is STUPID. Because if it is a fungus, you just spread it through the body, and the FDA mandated test in the nearest lymph nodes area the armpit is gonna show damaged dna. OH NOES, Cancer! (Oh another commonality between fungus and Cancer, both splice dna.) OH NOES, misdiagnosis due to not realizing that it was a fungus NOT a cancer. ) Because the test cannot tell the difference and the test is mandated by the FDA and if you as a doctor do not do it, you are going to be loosing your license.
What does cancer do in the breast? It collects calcium, that is what you spot in a mammogram. What does the body to to combat a fungal spoor sack formation in the body? It deposits calcium to glue the spores down.
Sugar concentrated in cancer. And fungus.
Hmmmm... Suspect tomorrows discovery will be fungus, but today people are dying and being milked by chemotherapy and burned with radiation that could perhaps be solved with a little flax seed oil every day. As shown in medical studies that are not being acted on yet.
We know the tip of the ice burg in medical science. Lets no pretend we know it all. People can die from others pride goes both ways.
The link between sugar and breast cancer has been known and discussed for years. But NOW it exists because a machine sees it. Humans have seen it with eyes for years, but that does not count because the humans do not have lab smocks.
So blessings on you, I will read your links later, you can read mine. But I promise you, if you hold your prejudice in check you will learn something, and if you do you can help others with it. If nothing else, by scientifically debunking the false trails.
Until then, chow ( its dinner time )
OK. I’m game so I took a couple days, several evenings in my spare time (time that I’d really like to get back BTW) and checked out the site “KnowTheCause.com.” Doug Kaufmann subscribes to the cancer is a fungus theory, the same theory as Tullio Simoncini promotes and Kaufmann often has the former Dr. Simoncini on his “show”.
And I say “former Dr.” because in 2003 Simoncini’s license to practice medicine in Italy was withdrawn and in 2006 he was convicted by an Italian judge for wrongful death and swindling and in 2012 and the Italian courts upheld his other conviction for manslaughter after several people died after getting his injections of baking soda. After moving his “practice” from Italy, he’s now under investigation in the Netherlands and I believe a few other countries as well for fraud and wrongful deaths.
And it should be further noted that despite his claims, Simoncini was never a prominent oncologist. In reality he was never working as a regularly employee of the medical staff of any oncology department, but he worked as a volunteer. He didn’t receive any salary. And he only administered treatment to cancer patients under the close supervision of senior doctors. His main occupation at the time was as a doctor in the Italian Social Security Service, assessing whether disabled people were eligible for pension or not, in other words the equivalent to a low level Workers Compensation doc here in the US, a bureaucrat, a pencil pusher and neither an oncology or infectious disease specialist or a front line physician or cancer researcher.
A good debunking of Tullio Simoncini and the “cancer is a fungus” myth can be found here:
Criticism of Tullio Simoncinis claims
I am not an MD, don't pretend to be, but I have found in my life and in the personal stories of others that the things I talk about do work……. Most of the stuff you quoted I cannot buy. I really do not care to share my medical history or my stories publicly, in my experience with that it is only used to be mocked at anyway.
Interesting. You have personal stories and the personal stores of others about the efficacy of how the things you talk about work, yet you won’t share them with us? I would think you would want to share some proof that the things you talk about really do work.
I am taking your MD at face value.
I am not an MD as in Medical Doctor and have never claimed to be one. The MD in my screen name is MD as in “Maryland” expat in PA (Pennsylvania). But I have always had a keen interest in actual science and in debunking pseudo science and scam artists.
As far as the other “stuff” I quoted that you cannot buy or that “most of the stuff that passes for Naturopatic you have listed are frankly crap”, I’m not the one promoting Naturopathy here, you are. If you have objections over the crap they promote like homeopathy (a big part of what most Naturopaths promote) and biofeedback, color therapy, acupuncture, spinal manipulation, colon cleansing, fasting diets, etc., take it up with them not me. If you want to list some Naturopatic practitioners (ND’s, i.e. “Not a Doctor”) who are more in line with your POV rather than what the American Association of Naturopatic Doctor’s says it is, go ahead:
Naturopathic Practice
Naturopathic practice includes the following diagnostic and treatment modalities: utilization of all methods of clinical and laboratory diagnostic testing including diagnostic radiology and other imaging techniques; nutritional medicine, dietetics and therapeutic fasting; medicines of mineral, animal and botanical origin; hygiene and public health measures; naturopathic physical medicine including naturopathic manipulative therapies; the use of water, heat, cold, light, electricity, air, earth, electromagnetic and mechanical devices, ultrasound, and therapeutic exercise; homeopathy; psychotherapy and counseling; acupuncture, injection and intravenous therapy; minor surgery; prescription medication; and naturopathic obstetrics (natural childbirth).
But then you as you say, you are not a doctor and neither am I, so we have that in common with Doug Kaufmann as he like us is not a doctor either, here is his “bio””
After graduation from Hospital Corps “A” School, Kaufmann worked in Respiratory Therapy and in the operating room at The San Diego Naval Hospital. He was ordered to Vietnam in 1970 and was attached to The Seventh Marine Division, where he was a field corpsman. Upon returning to the USA in 1971, he became ill. While working at USC Medical School, the mystery surrounding the illness would be unraveled, enabling full recovery for Kaufmann without the recommended prescriptions.
Don’t misunderstand me; I have great respect for military medical field corpsmen. Medical corpsman saved many lives under the most horrific conditions while taking enemy fire and a good number of them came home from the Korean and Vietnam Wars to go on to medical or nursing school or imparted what they learned about trauma in the field to start and further the field of trauma medicine and training others to become EMT’s rather than what we had before, mere ambulance drivers – i.e. “meat wagon” drivers.
But as far as Kaufmann goes, there is nothing in his background that suggests someone with even a basic education in biology or in infectious diseases, and it would seem that if you really want to know the “mystery” surrounding his “illness” and how he supposedly “cured” himself, you’ll have to buy one of his numerous books, on sale BTW at KnowTheCause.com. And his TV show FWIW, is not really a TV show but in reality an infomercial, one he pays to have aired. You can find him on late night or early AM TV sandwiched between those Kevin Trudeau infomercials, infomercials for male performance enhancement or Peter Popoff hawking his “Miracle Water”. (Yea, I’ve reached that post menopausal age that I have insomnia sometimes and find the funniest things on late night TV, perhaps my sleeplessness is caused by a fungus /s)
There are a lot of You Tube videos by Doug Kauffman and KnowTheCause and like any good huckster, he presents what would seem to be compelling evidence for his claims, and lots of cool visuals like this one demonstrating how rotting mangos and rotting tomatos are proof positive that fungus causes cancer (and if I understand from perusing his website, fungus also causes diabetes, Parkinson’s, arthritis and HIV/AIDS and just about anything else that ails ya.) Although after looking at the diet he promotes, it is not necessarily a bad way to eat per se, but there is absolutely no evidence that the Kauffman Phase I or Phase II anti-fungal diet will prevent cancer or any of a number of other diseases like Parkinson’s or AIDS or any fungal infections or even vaginal yeast infections.
“Your body is just like a mango or a tomato…”
And OMG! Mangos and tomatoes get funguses because of…….you guessed it……….GMO! Because non-GMO tomatoes never rot. ROTFLMAO! : ),
He is cherry picking a few snippets and out of context quotes from actual studies to lead you to believe those studies support what he is saying – they don’t.
And here is a good example of Mr. Kauffman hawking products sold on his website complete with a 1-800 number to order them (but no, according to the video I posted up thread, Kauffman is not making any money off of any of this, no, none at all and if you believe that, I’ve got some swampland to sell you):
Flexcin CEO, Tamer Elsafy, joins Doug Kaufmann on Know the Cause
And getting back to HIV/AIDs and fungus, I found this on the “Know the Cause” website:
The African diet is rich in corn and peanuts.
Corn and peanuts are often infected with Aspergillus mold. Aspergillus mold makes aflatoxin, a poisonous mycotoxin.
Two tubes of blood are drawn from 314 African AIDS patients. One tube from each patient is tested for HIV. The other tube is tested for mold (aflatoxin).
Positive HIV tests are then tested for a “viral load,” which varies depending upon how much HIV is in your blood.
RESULTS: The higher the mold count was in the blood, the higher the HIV viral load was. This proves a fungal cause to AIDS
OTHER AIDS FACTS:
The drug Diflucan was developed for AIDS patients in the 1980’s and is still used today. It does not kill viruses, but it does kill fungi. AIDS patients die of fungal diseases.
INTERPRETATION:
Is the HIV test a mold test or a “viral” test?
Does HIV exist when fungus is the cause?
Should HIV be immediately renamed HIF?
Are you kidding me? Seriously? What a crap load of misinformation and connecting dots which are not there. If this was submitted as a science paper in middle school by a 13 year old, it would get a failing grade. It is wrong on so many levels and if you can’t see that, you really need to take some basic science classes, learn a bit about the scientific method and then some biology and then learn a bit about “correlation does not imply causation” and get back to us.
First of all the drug Diflucan (generic name fluconazole) while often given to AIDS patients, it was not specifically developed for AIDS and it was not in use in the 1980’s as claimed by Doug Kauffman as it was only approved by the FDA in 1990 and it is used to treat many non-AIDS patients who have fungal infections and most typically for vaginal yeast infections.
The reason fluconazole is often given to AIDS patients is because people with HIV/AIDS are susceptible to opportunist infections including fungal infections such as Candidiasis (and also viral and bacterial infections). But that is not to say that fungal infections is the cause of HIV/AIDS or that treating AIDS patients with anti-fungal medications will cure them of AIDS. Yes people with AIDS die from fungal infections just as sometimes people with cancer die from fungal infections as a result of chemo or radiation therapy prior to a bone marrow transplant and in patients who have received organ transplants because they have compromised immune systems and therefor are susceptible to opportunist infections.
If eating a diet rich in peanuts and corn, presumably because of the fungus they contain, were the cause of HIV/AIDS then one would expect to see little or no cases of HIV/AIDS among populations who eat little if any peanuts and corn and very high incidences of HIV/AIDS in other parts of the world outside of Africa where they do like in America, especially the Southern US.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a690002.html
Are you aware of the omega 3 and omega 6 balance issues with breast cancer?
Here is a link to the actual findings:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19035453
I don’t think it says what you and some others think and claim it says.
And another:
Breast cancer
One study found that women with breast cancer who took GLA had a better response to tamoxifen (a drug used to treat estrogen sensitive breast cancer) than those who took only tamoxifen. Other studies suggest that GLA inhibits tumor activity among breast cancer cell lines. There is some research suggesting that a diet rich in omega-6 fatty acids may promote breast cancer development.
http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/supplement/omega6-fatty-acids#ixzz2a1GS4UPz
How about the use of vitamin D as a chemotherapy drug? I am sincerely not mocking, I am just curious as to if these two had reached you yet. I am taking your MD at face value.
Vitamin D is not a chemotherapy drug. Some studies have however ”suggested” that low levels of vitamin D “may” increase the “risk” for breast cancer, especially early onset breast cancer, but it is in no way conclusive and absolutely no clinical studies have found that the intake of large amounts of vitamin D will actually cure breast cancer. If you have a link to a large scale, peer reviewed scientific study that says otherwise, please post it.
Like I said, if I was in an accident, I would head to the emergency room to get patched up, and get the heck out of there. I find Doctors to be some of the best of the best, I find pharmaceuticals to be a horrible way to do business. My battle is not with doctors, my battle is with disease and its causes.
In other words, you would gladly go to the ER if you were suffering from crushing chest pains, shortness of breath, pain and numbness in your left arm, and if on the way to the ER you go into full cardiac arrest and arrive a code blue, you’d trust the ER docs to save your life, to administer live saving methods including drugs (i.e. those bad pharmaceuticals) but then once your heart was restarted and beating normally, you regained consciousness, you’d give those docs a big fat middle finger and tell them “I don’t need no stinking cardiologist”, I’m going to treat the fungus and eat a diet heavy on cinnamon, oregano, garlic and oak leaf rotated every two weeks, drink some apple cider vinegar (or not drink vinegar – I’m confused because Kauffman says vinegar is bad), drink some baking soda, go all “organic” and call up Doug Kaufmann for advice because you doctors don’t know everything. Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
BTW, you never addressed what I and others posted previously about how testing Ph levels in urine and saliva have no correlation what so ever with blood Ph levels or how the human body constantly adjusts Ph levels by excretion or how seriously trying to screw with your Ph levels such as by taking the baking soda “cure” that Simoncini and by extension that Kauffman promotes will not only not cure anything but that it could actually be lethal?
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