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1 posted on 07/16/2013 3:28:02 PM PDT by Red Steel
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Escalating violence? I didn’t realize Stand Your Ground laws applied in Chicago.


25 posted on 07/16/2013 3:54:34 PM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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There has already been a large number of stand your ground cases in the US, of people defending themselves and their property from criminals and the violent. So what is needed is to assemble a state by state list of these events, and all the times their actions were justified in the law.

And the relatively few times it wasn’t.

Holder’s bizarre assertion that SYG “encouraged” violence is utter hooey. These laws prevented not just violent felonies, but saved the lives of many people.


29 posted on 07/16/2013 4:06:05 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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Gosh, and there I thought the murder rate was down with the increase in such laws.

Silly me.

30 posted on 07/16/2013 4:13:02 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party, advancing indentured constituency for 150 years.)
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Laws like "Stand Your Ground" undermine innocent Americans' safety "by allowing - and perhaps encouraging - violent situations to escalate in public," Attorney General Eric Holder said Tuesday afternoon

This wasn't a case of stand-your-ground.

But while we're on the subject Mr. Holder...

An example of stand-your-ground would be Selma and Montgomery Alabama circa 1965.

Remember those AG Holder?

There were marches and sit-ins.

Stand-your-ground is a civil right.

33 posted on 07/16/2013 4:21:14 PM PDT by FreeReign
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This case should shoved into the GOP-e’s face as a primer on why appeasement of the left does not work. First they just wanted the arrest and trial...you know...justice. And when they failed to get the verdict that they thought was all but a slam dump (not a typo), they went bat crap crazy.

They fact that they are demanding changes to SYG laws when it has nothing to do with this case is not an accident or misunderstanding; it was always the agenda. The left takes remotely related threads and weaves them together with the help of a compliant media. I talked to three people today who were certain that GZ got off on a SYG defense, wow!

If anyone in the GOP has one grain of sense, what is happening here should shut down all talk of amnesty. Once that camel get the nose under the tent, they will want immediate voting rights for everyone and the MSM will help them all they can. Any supposed good deeds by GOP lawmakers who vote for this travesty will be swept away just like GZ’s tutoring of black children was.

Oh and BTW Stevie Wonder, you are way to old to go by a six year old’s name and no FL does not give a flip if you perform in our state again.


34 posted on 07/16/2013 4:26:54 PM PDT by lovesdogs
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Freedom>Peace


35 posted on 07/16/2013 4:30:37 PM PDT by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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Liberals feel you do not have a right to self-defense.

Liberals tell women not to resist a rapist.

Liberals tell victims not to fight over the money in their wallet.

Liberal lawyers tell corporations to prevent employees from defending themselves.

Liberals fight tougher sentencing guidelines.

Liberals release prisoners due to spending on social welfare.

Liberals support a felon’s right to vote.


37 posted on 07/16/2013 4:41:24 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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tm is nowgun control part iii.

part i -fast and furious, foiled

part ii - newtown, failed

part ii - tm + race component


38 posted on 07/16/2013 4:42:08 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Holden said his father had to give him the “respect police” speech when he was a young man and it saddened him that he had to give it to his son.

What?

I am white. I am 60 years old. I got the speech from my Father when I was 10.

“The Man may not be right, but he has the gun and the law.”

“You may be right, dead right.”

Was the quote.

When my white daughter started driving, she got the same lesson.

Holder, there is life beyond race. Put your cards away.


40 posted on 07/16/2013 4:42:45 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (dont worry about Mexico, put the fence around kalifornia.)
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With all due respect, Mr. Holder (which frankly is no respect at all), for the 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000th time, STAND YOUR GROUND WAS NOT A FACTOR IN THIS CASE. Jesus Christ on a step ladder - you’d think the top attorney in the nation would at least understand the basic legal principles involved here.


41 posted on 07/16/2013 4:47:50 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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"Holder: "Stand Your Ground" allows, encourages escalating violence"

So ?

42 posted on 07/16/2013 4:49:53 PM PDT by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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Hey, Holder! Does Chicago have a SYG law? It must, given the high number of murders in the city. Oh, it doesn’t?

FUEH.


43 posted on 07/16/2013 5:40:31 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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Anyone that assaults me or mine is likely to find violence escalated to a level that they don’t care for.

The standard recommendation is to be careful, kind, polite, and have a plan to kill anyone you meet.


45 posted on 07/16/2013 5:59:27 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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These people are so freakin clueless. It’s the innocent that are being attacked you idiots.


47 posted on 07/16/2013 6:27:46 PM PDT by servantboy777
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