[arthurus]

It seems to have. I know it did locally.

[Mrs. Don-o]

That Jacksonville "Golden Corral" thread was pulled --- evidently it was a bogus story, and the cops have evidence that it was a slaying over drugs, by druggies who knew each other and met up at the Golden Corral by prearrangement. I don't know one way or the other. Anyway, that thread is gone.

So I picked another thread on Zimmerman aquittal aftermath, just to respond to your point concerning "who does the choosing":

Quite right --- "you" or "I" have, perhaps, never chosen abortion, random sex hookups, porn, adultery, luring our poorer neighbors into permanent unemployment and degrading dependency, the regulatory extermination of small business, extrajudicial killing by executive order, the erection of a colossal kleptocracy, the fascist control of the major institutions of society by centralized government --- a great many things --- and yet here it is to crush us and our children unto the 3rd or 4th generaton.

When a society as a whole chooses well, everyone in that society benefits, even the ne'er-do-wells; and when a society as a whole chooses badly, the whole society suffers, even the just.

So, even if one may be uncertain that God -- who is just --- levies punishments upon the good and the bad alike, still, natural and logical consequences very often are collective and intergenerational.