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To: Kaslin

I understand everyone’s unhappiness with Obamacare, but frankly what we had before was also a mess.

I do not, see anyone moving to actually FIX things.

We just seem to waffle between one mess (pre-Obamacare) and another mess (Obamacare)

Either fix Obamacare, or leave it.

We cannot return to what we had.


4 posted on 07/15/2013 6:08:12 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Until individuals pay directly for their own care, (with a major med policy for catastrophic illnesses) we will never be able to “control costs.”
5 posted on 07/15/2013 6:11:39 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Why don’t we let people buy their own insurance (allowing interstate purchases) and be done with it? Remember, insurance is suppose to protect people from catastrophic loses, not to pay for every little band-aide.


6 posted on 07/15/2013 6:13:47 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
WHAT was such a mess?

We paid too much?

Blame the insurance companies .. that were legislated into covering their own asses.

Health CARE is the BEST on the planet here.

Health care COSTS were unmanageable.

Doctors did their best by accepting cash payments for substantially less than what the insurance was charging/paying.

The outrage in America over obozocare has started a storm that will (I WANT to believe .. ) cure this 'problem'

11 posted on 07/15/2013 6:22:39 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Either fix Obamacare, or leave it.

We cannot return to what we had.

I disagree. The basic "parts" of Obamacare cannot be fixed; it is an inherently flawed system with far too much bureaucracy and red tape. The few "reasonable" mandates and concepts (pre-existing conditions, buying healthcare across state lines) in Obamacare, do not justify the bloat.

That said, we could return to what we had, AND improve it with just a few small ideas: tort reform, buying insurance across state lines, pre-existing conditions.

The system before sucked because there was already too much government in the mix. It was not horrible.

16 posted on 07/15/2013 6:31:12 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

To ‘fix’ it:
1)Reduce Medicaid roles which increases demand and inflate costs, AND invites fraud/waste.

2) End tax subsidized employer health insurance which has grown third-party payer insurance programs. Same problem as above in a slightly different context.

3) Increase HSAs and make them more user friendly.

4) Strip unfunded mandates away from the health insurance market.

5) Tort reform.

5 ‘political third rails’ right there!


26 posted on 07/15/2013 6:46:20 AM PDT by madameguinot
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

>> I do not, see anyone moving to actually FIX things.

Including you. You just bitch.

What’s your detailed plan to actually FIX things?


36 posted on 07/15/2013 7:06:25 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Let me get this straight. Because our healthcare system had problems before Obamacare, we should make it worse with Obamacare, until we can make it better. Sounds like a plan to me.


39 posted on 07/15/2013 7:17:20 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I do not, see anyone moving to actually FIX things.

A true fix would require one of the large group of donors to take a hit ($$$$$). Probably more than one group, doctors, insurance companies, hospitals, trial lawyers...

70 posted on 07/15/2013 8:52:30 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The Lefties can drink Kool-Aid; I will drink Tea.)
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