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Question of the Week: Will Obamacare Collapse?
Townhall.com ^ | July 15, 2013 | Daniel J. Mitchel

Posted on 07/15/2013 6:02:39 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Perdogg

If Obama could be forced to enforce O-care on schedule then much more heat would be from O-care for 2014, then now. He made a smart move delaying that mandate.


61 posted on 07/15/2013 8:08:10 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: All
Ohahacare---inspired by Rube Goldberg.

Amazingly this lower chart is supposed to simplify and explain O'care......comes from a consultant group paid to assist in the process of getting states to create exchanges (the ones that interface with the IRS, HHS, and an assortment of know-nothing snoopy federal agencies).

Shows the mess Ohaha created, and why the WH apparatchiks cannot make it work more than three years after its passage.

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Every thinking American knows Obaba can't be trusted w/ govt power----he lied before about O'care (and he's lying again and again WRT amnesty---w/ that stupid smirk pasted on his face----the mark of a true conman).

62 posted on 07/15/2013 8:16:42 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Tau Food

What do you mean they will shove it down our throat anyway? They already have or did you miss that?


63 posted on 07/15/2013 8:16:54 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: All
Vladimir Lenin / 1945 pamphlet

“Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.”

64 posted on 07/15/2013 8:19:08 AM PDT by Liz
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To: All
UNCLE OBAMA---legacy freak


65 posted on 07/15/2013 8:20:46 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Kaslin
Obamacare is going to get even worse as time goes on. They're really just warming up.

If you hate government healthcare like Medicare, you're going to hate Obamacare. Government healthcare doesn't work!

66 posted on 07/15/2013 8:23:25 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Why is American healthcare so darn expensive??

Umm, maybe it's: ambulance-chasing lawyers and a legal system that tolerates them? The hurdles the FDA maintains against new drugs and treatments? Big Pharma with its high prices and increasingly frequent drug shortages? Universities with exorbitant tuition?

67 posted on 07/15/2013 8:43:19 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: SMARTY
Obamacare is the ridiculous and fantastic 'Spruce Goose', leviathan that won't fly EITHER!

Sorry, bad analogy, the Goose did fly... just not very high...(Might have been ground effect, but that was never investigated further...)

68 posted on 07/15/2013 8:43:39 AM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: LaRueLaDue

...the Goose did fly... just not very high...”

Right, I knew that.

It only flew once, took off with great difficulty, flew low for a short distance and was THEN put away FOREVER!!
I was aware of all that!!

I think HH must have been embarrassed and if “O” had one iota of brains he’d be embarrassed at his OWN stupidity in trying to make something fly that is obviously a joke!


69 posted on 07/15/2013 8:51:15 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I do not, see anyone moving to actually FIX things.

A true fix would require one of the large group of donors to take a hit ($$$$$). Probably more than one group, doctors, insurance companies, hospitals, trial lawyers...

70 posted on 07/15/2013 8:52:30 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The Lefties can drink Kool-Aid; I will drink Tea.)
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To: bmwcyle

Yes, the LEFT is strategic. What appears as chaos to us is all part of the plan. They didn’t really have to pass it to “find out what was in it”—the LEFT always knew EXACTLY what was in it. They will NOT let this die under any circumstances. Single payer is the ultimate goal.

Now, what will the un-strategic GOP do about it? Rove? Romney? McLame? Miss Lindsey? Bushies?.....


71 posted on 07/15/2013 9:38:44 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete
Now, what will the un-strategic GOP do about it? Rove? Romney? McLame? Miss Lindsey? Bushies?.....

They will do what they always do. They will remain silent, go along, or claim a compromise that equals a sell out.

72 posted on 07/15/2013 9:44:13 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Kaslin

The word WHEN was left off after the colon...


73 posted on 07/15/2013 1:24:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin

“Well, I’ve already explained why I’m optimistic about the possibility of turning Obamacare lemons into free-market lemonade.

Simply stated, the law took a healthcare system that already was a mess because of government intervention and subsidies and it doubled down on that misguided approach!”

Not me, sorry. I am much more certain that we will have band-aid placed upon band-aid placed upon suture placed upon workaround placed upon subsidy placed upon whatever else...BECAUSE LAWS ARE NEVER REPEALED! (OK, functioning laws are repealed, like Glass-Steagal, but we’re talking 1%)

Instead, I believe the odds are much greater that will get a hybrid-patchwork-bastardization-cross-subsidized mishmosh that will look like one of those old houses with 6 layers of roofing on it, so many that the rafters are sagging under the weight.

The government HAS ACHIEVED legal control over this 1/6th of the US economy and nothing short of an asteroid strike will cause them to relinquish their grip.

The fix will be THREE THOUSAND pages. Count on it.


74 posted on 07/15/2013 1:50:26 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Both parties are trying to elect a new PEOPLE.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

. “Why is American healthcare so darn expensive??”
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Pretty much for one reason only, the government has been screwing with it for decades. The only way to fix healthcare is get the government out of the business and let the chips fall where they may until it sorts itself out but that will never be done until there is no other possibility. By that time health care will be back to what people had two or three hundred years ago most likely, maybe even worse. Government very seldom solves a problem because government thrives by CREATING PROBLEMS WHILE PRETENDING to solve them.


75 posted on 07/15/2013 1:54:43 PM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
There is no "mess" in healthcare. the cost of care and labyrinthine reimbursement systems are messy. The whole bottom line issue should be cost, and cost was not a problem until Medicare was passed. That is when healthcare inflation took off, and it hasn't stopped since.

The only rational basic solution, as cited by others above, is insurance limited to no frills catastrophic coverage, pay as you go for routine belly aches and colds, and private charity as it is moved to provide for the least of these.

76 posted on 07/15/2013 4:56:42 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: bmwcyle

And that’s why we need a new party—one that voluntarily imposes term limits on itself. Professional politicians are owned—it’s inevitable.


77 posted on 07/16/2013 3:21:31 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete

All needs to be done is eliminate Congress and President’s retirement funds and enforce insider trading. They will not stay long.


78 posted on 07/16/2013 9:31:57 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: bmwcyle

:)


79 posted on 07/16/2013 10:15:57 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: Perdogg
That Obama is never seen responsible for anything.

Hubby and I were discussing that. It's worked for everything so far, but OBAMACARE is the name that everyone, even the MSM, uses for this autrocity so it will be hard for him to distance himself from its effect. And if/when the MSM tries to rename it - it will be an obvious deflection and I don't think any new name will stick.
80 posted on 07/16/2013 8:57:05 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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