Posted on 07/13/2013 3:17:06 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
(CNN) -- After more than 12 hours of deliberation, the six women deliberating George Zimmerman's fate asked the court Saturday evening for clarification on the instructions regarding manslaughter, the judge said.
That couldn't have even been a question a few days ago: Judge Debra Nelson ruled Thursday, over the defense's vehement objection, to include manslaughter as an option for jurors, in addition to the second-degree murder charge. Their third option would be to find Zimmerman not guilty.
The question -- which was read out in court, without the jurors present, shortly before 6 p.m. -- was the first posed by the jury since late Friday afternoon, when they requested an inventory of evidence. Afterward, lawyers from both sides approached Nelson's bench; their comments could not be heard.
How long other juries deliberated for in other high-profile cases One of 1,009 fatal shootings in Florida in 2012, Trayvon Martin's death stood out -- the various threads of the story helping to capture the public imagination.
There was, for instance, the fact that an adult had fired on an unarmed teen, soon after police told him not to follow the 17-year-old. And there was the accusation of racial profiling: that Zimmerman -- the son of a Peruvian mother and a white American father, who identifies as Hispanic -- had singled out Martin, at least in part, because the teenager was black.
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What if Zimmerman had not done what he did and the black guy acting suspiciously broke into a house and killed someone? Zimmerman was trying to keep Martin in sight until the cops got there. I’m sure if he had it to do over, he’d let Martin do whatever the hell he wanted to do.
If they asked about Manslaughter, it means 2nd Degree is out
Do you have any alternate theory for why Zimmerman had an obviously smashed nose and multiple lacerations on the back of his head?
And do you have any alternate theory for why John Good testified that he saw a black guy wearing a hoodie on top of a lighter-skinned guy wearing red, with the black guy's arms pumping downward?
If you do, I'd like to hear it.
Great post! See my tagline. It’s not just talking about liberals.
Pretty darn hard to find DNA evidence on the hands if you don't actually take a swab, isn't it?
Do you have an alternate theory for why no DNA on Trayvon’s hands and/or clothing? I just find it strange.
I don’t doubt Trayvon was beating Zimmerman. But what if Trayvon felt threatened by Zimmerman and was defending himself?
Are you suggesting the GZ wounds were not inflicted by TM?
This works on Orwells Animal Farm
I would think Zimmerman also wishes he had never gotten out of his car. My concern is what this case means for neighborhood watch in general
Where is the evidence that Zimmerman sought out a confronation. I must have missed that.
Defending himself from what exactly? Words? Eyeball-contact? From being "dissed"?
I believe that it was established that the body was left out for three hours. It was raining and the bags that are used for preserving evidence on the hands were not put on the hands. That could have something to do with lack of evidcnce on his hands.
One of Zimmerman’s friends said on Fox that he has the inside track??? on the jury (don’t know if I believe this), and they are 5-1 for acquittal, 1 holdout for manslaughter, thus the question.
It won't make much difference from a sentencing perspective. A manslaughter conviction (with a firearm) is a first degree felony and could garner 30 years with a 9 year + minimum - so it could essentially be a life sentence.
Tha was why the defense made an issue of Trayvon’s hands not being covered to preserve evidence.
Or gotten out of bed??
My concern is what this case means for neighborhood watch in general
It MIGHT mean no neighborhood will be safe from organized thuggery, threats, intimidation, drug sales, open prostitution, and of course, arming yourself in self-defense from all of it.
No, it is one or the other.
The LAW should still be on GZs case on the charge with manslaughter, but sadly I doubt they are going with what the law is.
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