[Fawn]

He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another

How is that NOT clear to the jury? Do you think they would possibly believe he wasn't getting the crap beat out of him?? Why do you say it's not good.

[tanknetter]

How is that NOT clear to the jury? Do you think they would possibly believe he wasn't getting the crap beat out of him?? Why do you say it's not good.

Reading the instructions, posted just a little further up in this thread, to the jury on Manslaughter I understand completely why it wouldn't be clear.