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To: moehoward

my guess is one of the thinks just getting out of his car with a gun was negligent or stupid or evidence of something. One flake!


1,639 posted on 07/13/2013 3:33:31 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: cajungirl

Even if the flake thought so, those elements don’t equal to manslaughter. They equal being on neighborhood watch and legally carrying a concealed weapon. Not to manslaughter. The law is clear enough on that.

In manslaughter there has to be an act of intent that inevitably led to the death, whether or not the perp realized it would ultimately lead there but is clearly reckless in nature and led ultimately to the death.

But as has been instructed, if at any point in this scenario Zimmerman shot Trayvon because of reasonable fear of death or serious bodily injury, that takes manslaughter off the table. And that was already given to the jury in the original instructions.

There might be a deliberately DENSE juror who wants to believe Z carrying, watching, following to see where T went etc are reckless acts inevitably leading to the death. But that is simply not true either on facts or the law.

All T had to do was go home and go inside. He got into an altercation and didn’t have to. There is eyewitness testimony to that and that Z was yelling for help and on the bottom being pummeled by T.

Even if you don’t accept Z’s account of how it started, it ended that way and that’s where self defense comes in.

Also, as stated, a “gone home Trayvon” would have never gotten into or provoked the confrontation.


1,701 posted on 07/13/2013 3:44:53 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck)
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