Sorry you’re wrong. It isn’t exactly the same defense. How can it be manslaughter if you’re found not guilty of murder by self defense? I’d want to try the case and hammer home anything related to manslaughter too. But it wasn’t on the table. Second, my point applies especially as they were an inch from charging him with child abuse.
This is a dishonest practice. The state should put all charges on the table first.
No I'm not. If the jury believes self defense then they couldn't find guilty for either one. I never said otherwise. But that's the point. Self defense is a defense to both charges because the elements of manslaughter are a subset of the elements of murder 2.