yes leatherneck, I love the military but we out here who are the ones supporting all this stuff can’t afford it for military officers to then start collecting their retirement, go to work for the federal government as a GS 11 or 12, retire from there, collect retirement, collect social security, collect cost of living increases on all three, chit man, why don’t you take some of that lucre you have gained from the taxpayers’ blood sweat and tears and start a manufacturing plant or factory? We who are paying for all this are self paying our health insurance, driving cars that are 10 years old, and y’all are giving us government services we don’t want, and enforcing on us as part of your job in the executive branch regulations by the bushelfull that we don’t want. How about becoming part of the solution instead of part of the machine that is killing the goose that lays the golden eggs?
I am in the middle of a 30 million dollar upgrade project and most of our upgrades take place on Friday. We are mandated to complete the project by 12/31.
So what happens? We go to implement on Friday and where is my civilian contractor? On furlough every Friday for the next 2 1/2 months. That’s at multiple sites. We asked to implement another day and the government said no.
Idiots!
Would it make a difference if the retiree was working in industry? If so, why??
A person's wages are his wages. An agreement is an agreement.
Would it be ethical for a private-sector employer to see that a person is a retired E-6 drawing $1,000 a month pension and tell that retiree that his salary will be $1,000 a month less because he is a retiree and makes that as a pension...so why should the company pay him?
Would it be ethical for a company to tell an 62 year old employee who has paid into a 401(k) for 25 years that they are taking back the "company match" funds because, well, the company was mis-managed and they need the money -- so screw you?
I can't speak for officers, but as a retired Senior NCO, I made decisions in my life a long time ago based upon the fact that if I was patient and stayed in, I would have a nice reward at the end. I put up with a ton of crap, dealt with my share of total idiots, and did so while drawing wages that were about half to 2/3 of what I would earn as a private sector person...and, why? Because I had an agreement with my country...do my bit now and reap the rewards later on.
IF they get rid of all the support for people who have never done a day's worth of constructive work in their lives…IF they get rid of ALL the waste and actually manage money and people effectively…IF they get rid of ALL the departments and programs that are in violation of Article 1 Section 8...THEN AND ONLY THEN will I be more than willing to sacrifice what I earned for the good of the country.
Until then...you owe me.
And if that makes me …part of the machine that is killing the goose that lays the golden eggs?, tough shit.