Don't know if it's true, but I read somewhere that in Florida, manslaughter is automatically a lesser included charge for any murder charge.
No to manslaughter, according to Judge Alex who has said this over and over again, in Florida Manslaughter, since a gun was used and the “victim” was under 18 its an automatic 30 year sentence
Yep, its true in FL and really most other jurisdictions. It takes a certain mumber of provable elements to convict on a given crime. Where the greater crimes have more elements, the lesser included crimes require proof on a subset of those same elements. So for a crime that has, say, three elements, lesser included could be proven with only two of those same elements. It’s like giving the prosecution partial credit. He couldn’t get that third element, but if he showed the other two elements, he gets the corresponding “lesser included” as a consolation prize.
In this case, to get Murder Two the prosecution needed to show 1) the victim was dead, 2) the defendant unlawfully killed the victim, and 3) the defendant did so with a “depraved mind.” A depraved mind is demonstrated by a calloused disregard for human life (as opposed to premeditation, which would ratchet it up to Murder One).
Well, the prosecution lost on the depraved mind element, so they went down the list to manslaughter. The problem is, the killing still has to be unlawful for that element to hold, and if the jury buys the self-defense argument, then the killing was lawful, and that second element also fails, leaving the prosecution with only the single element of the victim’s death, for which there is no lesser included.
believe you are right.
That is correctt.