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To: thackney; All

Thank you for the links I will read them. I was talking about MSM TV. Please Google Kalamazoo River oil spill (Enbridge), and learn about our own $1 billion plus oil spill cleanup of the Canadian Tar sands. Lots of human error there too. I read there was a recent explosion in Alabama, but have not researched that one yet. I believe it was from very hazardous ND Bakken oil which is also implicated in the Lac Megantic explosion. Regs have been passed for shipping highly hazardous types of oil which are being ignored. More research needed. Enbridge has asked to be excused from transporting certain kinds of oil.


65 posted on 11/27/2013 12:56:31 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
I was talking about MSM TV.

You are talking then about entertainment, not a real news source.

Please Google Kalamazoo River oil spill (Enbridge), and learn

I don't have to google, I am quite familiar with it. Again, moving large volumes of hazardous material thousands of miles is not going to be without hazards.

We move ~1% of the nations crude oil by rail and 89% by pipeline.

Refinery receipts of crude oil by rail, truck, and barge continue to increase
http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.cfm?id=12131

If you are going to compare them, compare them fairly by multiplying the rail events by 89 times. That is what would at least happen if you moved the pipeline movements to rail.

I read there was a recent explosion in Alabama, but have not researched that one yet.

This one?

Alabama rail line reopens after derailment, oil spill
http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20131119/NEWS/131119672/1291?Title=Alabama-rail-line-reopens-after-derailment-oil-spill-&tc=ar

very hazardous ND Bakken oil

In what way do you think the light sweet crude oil coming out of the Bakken is more hazardous than average crude oil?

Regs have been passed for shipping highly hazardous types of oil which are being ignored.

Please back that claim with a link please.

Enbridge has asked to be excused from transporting certain kinds of oil.

Are you talking about moving an oil out of specification for which the pipeline was designed, or contracts made for delivery? All pipelines set limits on all product to be shipped. They cannot contaminate a delivery of sweet with a bunch of sulfur; that is normal business.

I suggest a bit more information on the topic:

Pipelines Are Safest For Transportation of Oil and Gas
http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/ib_23.htm#.UpZiUsRDt8E

Compare by the tons per mile moved. Then compare the personal injuries as well as the spills.

66 posted on 11/27/2013 1:23:41 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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