[Recovering Ex-hippie]

Well put.

Where do you put Hitler on that list..he governed well initially for a brief time, and then his insanity took over..of course the egomaniacle need for power and control was also his undoing.

Stalin, again a very mixed bag..he got Russia from an agrarian society to a highly industrialized society for WW II..but at a terrible cost and then again the power and control was horrible.

[PaleoBob]

Where do you put Hitler on that list..he governed well initially for a brief time, and then his insanity took over..of course the egomaniacle need for power and control was also his undoing.

Stalin, again a very mixed bag..he got Russia from an agrarian society to a highly industrialized society for WW II..but at a terrible cost and then again the power and control was horrible.

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Hitler and Stalin depended on war for their grip on power. Even before firing on other nations they were busy firing on their own political opponents—as Obama does today in a more “civilized” way. But this is NOT governance. Crushing the Republicans (the Jews, the kulaks, the Christians, the Ukranians, etc.) is NOT what people are looking for in a leader.

Slaughtering people is a lot easier than governing them. Governing is really tough stuff.