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To: vette6387
I was just wondering if the Korean pilots were trying a "slip maneuverer" to lose some altitude fast in this 777 crash,
but after reading the input from your friend Tom, I doubt it.
848 posted on 07/10/2013 2:24:18 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

“I was just wondering if the Korean pilots were trying a “slip maneuverer” to lose some altitude fast in this 777 crash, ,,,,,”

Someone posted the vertical speed data on the Asiana flight from some service that can provide you with altitude data for the entire flight. If that information is correct, the plane was never in a “stabilized” decent. The data presented showed that the rate of decent varied from more than 1300 ft/ min down to less than 300. It can be best described as a “yo-yo.” Evidently they were high at the FAF (the Outer Marker) so they pulled power, and nosed the plane down to position it properly. But they never got it stabilized at around 600fpm. It looks as though they were always behind in being where they needed to be on the glide slope. With something this big, you can’t be making large corrections in attitude, because the plane is incapable of responding. They simply ended up at the runway threshold with too high a rate of decent and too little airspeed, and when they tried to pull the nose up to stop the decent they simply stalled, banged the tail down first, tore the gear off on the seawall, and became wreckage moving at about 100 mph. along the ground. As far as slipping the plane, they would have more likely been using the spoilers to adjust their decent rate. That said, at the end of the flight a slip would have been counterproductive to their situation, because a slip is used to loose altitude. My flight instructor used to say that there are two things that are useless to a pilot 1) The runway behind you and 2) the sky above you.


849 posted on 07/10/2013 3:27:49 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Yosemitest

“Slip maneuver” in a swept wing jet? No way Jose, or Kim. It just is not done, PERIOD! Please do not cross pollinate civilian experience with military or commercial jet flying.


850 posted on 07/10/2013 6:41:46 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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