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777 Crash at SFO (San Francisco)
Twitter ^ | July 6, 2013

Posted on 07/06/2013 12:02:24 PM PDT by FreedomPoster

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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Now reporting 2 fatalities.


281 posted on 07/06/2013 1:27:26 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: BatGuano
Right seat C-560 for three years. Not exactly a heavy jet. More like the Fischer Price of jets. Transitioning from Aztecs and Seminole made you realize you do not nose-up flare in a typical landing stage of flight. Or perhaps better described as those days of accuracy landings are not as critical when you're flying a $26 million dollar airplane. Better to use the runway and spare the hardware.

I remember failing a check-ride in a PA28-R200 because I did not place the mains on the third stripe. I floated to the fourth stripe in order to spare the plane. He busted me for it.

282 posted on 07/06/2013 1:28:32 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

“Now reporting 2 fatalities.”

The bomb crew?


283 posted on 07/06/2013 1:28:40 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Hulka

did they save any kimch?


284 posted on 07/06/2013 1:29:10 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Steely Tom
This page is already listing the airframe as "Written Off."

Oh, come on. A little bondo, a fresh coat of paint and that baby will be as good as new. Well, with a new fuselage. And wings. And stuff.

On a serious side, if that thing pranged and they got 293 people off it alive, I have a very serious new respect for the designers. Wow.

285 posted on 07/06/2013 1:29:55 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Looking at the pics, just past the # 28 on the runway looks like the nose gear. In the overrun and on the start of the runway, plenty of rocks from the jetty. Just in the water a large piece of the tail. Still haven’t seen the left engine anywhere.


286 posted on 07/06/2013 1:30:03 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Steely Tom

I’d assume it’s still somewhat above, lol.


287 posted on 07/06/2013 1:30:19 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: BatGuano

When the video pulls way out you can see there was another plane on the taxiway at the end of the runway. Apparently waiting for clearance to take off.

How’d you like that front row seat watching this plane crash.


288 posted on 07/06/2013 1:30:20 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: tcrlaf

High to a low, look out below.


289 posted on 07/06/2013 1:30:46 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: 2111USMC

Huh? That picture was taken after the plane had already skidded down the runway.


290 posted on 07/06/2013 1:31:28 PM PDT by Royal Wulff
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To: tcrlaf

Yeah
You have to press “B”


291 posted on 07/06/2013 1:31:34 PM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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When did the two people die? Of what? Before or after the crash landing?

Not being familiar with the process of landing such an airliner, how many seconds does it take to drop to the ground from 200 feet? If SFO is at 13 ft above sea level, what was the timing of all of this in those last few seconds?


292 posted on 07/06/2013 1:32:02 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Billthedrill

Looking at the other plane that was waiting to take off, it’s a miracle that the crashed plane didn’t slide into the jet that was waiting.


293 posted on 07/06/2013 1:32:05 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: FreedomPoster

The brown smear is easy to explain.


294 posted on 07/06/2013 1:32:11 PM PDT by OSHA (One despises and wants to destroy the United States, the other is a dead terrorist.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Sometimes there is no choice.

I have to fly next Monday for work.

I hate it.


295 posted on 07/06/2013 1:32:12 PM PDT by mom4melody
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To: Alas Babylon!

sad


296 posted on 07/06/2013 1:32:18 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: crosslink

CNN is all over the poor guy.

https://twitter.com/Eunner

KC Estenson @kccnn 40m

@Eunner can you get on the phone with CNN re plane crash?
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David Eun David Eun @Eunner 34m

@kccnn I don’t want to divert attention away from crash. Posted updates to let everyone know that majority of passengers seem ok.


297 posted on 07/06/2013 1:32:54 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Firs from the engine?

Not the fuselage breaking apart and all that fuel and sparks causing the fire?

"wings are pinned so that if you have a hard landing the engine breaks away and slides under the wing and then is left behind"

Not to argue too much, but engines are not designed to shear off on a hard/crash landing.

Engines go from zero to 100% thrust pretty darned quick and you need them to hold on, hour after hour, years after year after year, engine thrust up and down countless times. What would be the NDI process used to determine if the designed-to-shear-off (fail) engine was due for replacement? Imagine the liability issues for designing a critical flight component to “fail.”

Basically, engines are not designed to shear off. Most mishaps the engines do shear off and travel ahead of the impact site. Why? Because they are heavy and producing thrust when the aircraft impacts the ground (assuming a semi-level flight path). In those cases the engines pull ahead of the rapidly disintegrating, very light-weight airframe due to inertia and residue thrust.

The fact that one engine remained on the fuselage indicates possibly low power—consistent with low/idle power at landing. The other engine separating could indicate the engine impacted the ground and submarined into the dirt, breaking it off.

Regardless, it is amazing so many survived. . .simply amazing.

298 posted on 07/06/2013 1:34:21 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Royal Wulff

No, you can see the nose of the jet still pointing up in the air. It still has a tail section in that pic.


299 posted on 07/06/2013 1:34:23 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: tcrlaf

“Dial in his barometric pressure”...That might cause a problem on an instrument approach where the altimeter is controlling the Minimum descent altitude. This was a visual approach. A wide body jet pilot is aiming 1500’ down the runway in order to be sure that the gear have adequate clearance over the runway threshold. Most likely pilot error with tower contributing to cause if the tower instructed pilot to land on the parallel runway.


300 posted on 07/06/2013 1:34:28 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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