Did Abolitionist Hatred of the South Cause the Civil War?

PJ Lifestyle ^ | July 5, 2013 | David Forsmark

[donmeaker]

Jeff Davis did what he could: He called up 100,000 troops to support his insurrection, he ordered the insurrection to fire on the US Army, he resorted to conscription before the US, he ordered his conscript mass of soldiery to invade other US states.

Fortunately, his efforts were successful at preferentially getting those who supported the slave power in the insurrection states killed, and getting those who didn’t support the slave power in the south to desert. Further, he alienated foreign nations so much that he was never able to get recognition by any foreign government.

[Tau Food]

Lincoln saw what John Brown had tried to do at Harpers Ferry and expanded it to a monstrous size. If what John Brown did made him a terrorist, what do we call Abraham Lincoln?

Lincoln was to the nineteenth century what Pol Pot was to the twentieth century.

[Pelham]

I read The New Dealers’ War and it is excellent.

[JCBreckenridge]

“For me Union territory is the land that was under the governmental authority of the United States of America during the American Civil War.”

Yawn. I suppose you don’t believe that any states were confederate. This is boring.

[JCBreckenridge]

Not at the start of the war it wasn’t.

[donmeaker]

Except that Lincoln didn’t do what John Brown did. John Brown started insurrection in an attempt to end slavery. He failed because the US government put down the insurrection.

Jeff Davis tried to start an insurrection that would promote slavery. He failed because the US government put down the insurrection.

Lincoln tried to end and insurrection started to promote slavery, and the EP was a wartime measure to weaken the insurrection, so the US could put down the insurrection.

[donmeaker]

The pretended confederacy had no legal existance. Its pretended laws could be enforced by a pretended authority, but its authority was a nullity, therefore any restrictions placed on any person under its pretended authority to enforces its pretended laws was kidnapping, and any execution of any person under its pretended laws was a murder.

[donmeaker]

To which “it” do you refer?

[donmeaker]

That is true. Certainly TR didn’t have the excuse of pellagra.

[CougarGA7]

Yawn. I suppose you don’t believe that any states were confederate. This is boring.

That's amusing. Do explain your logic for this statement because I'd love to see how you arrived at this conclusion.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

Except for the fact that the Bible purportedly states God’s will which by definition is eternal. From a human perspective you would be correct. From the perspective of Divine revelation it would seem that the truth of your statement is problematical.

[donmeaker]

Ah but G-ds will was written by failable men, and translated by faillable men, and worst yet, applied to their current environment by faillable men.

[central_va]

You’ll notice these Lincoln butt boys always want the last post. It is unreal these people.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

God’s will has been interpreted by fallible men. However, there are rules of interpretation and there are words which are not really ambiguous.

[0.E.O]

If what John Brown did made him a terrorist, what do we call Abraham Lincoln?

Mr. President.

[Tau Food]

;-)

You just don't seem to be impressed by my argument. And, I worked very hard to concoct it.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

You’ll notice these Lincoln butt boys always want the last post. It is unreal these people.

Putting up another post complaining about other people always wanting the last post is the funniest thing I've seen all day.

[rockrr]

Usually the liberals frame it, “OK (epithet) I’ll give you the last word.......go!” ;-)

[central_va]

Ok, I get the last post? No response necessary.

[rockrr]

You’re the one obsessed and driven to distraction over it. The rest of us are just having fun. Knock yourself out ;-)