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Did Abolitionist Hatred of the South Cause the Civil War?
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| July 5, 2013
| David Forsmark
Posted on 07/06/2013 7:37:16 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: JCBreckenridge
Jeff Davis did what he could: He called up 100,000 troops to support his insurrection, he ordered the insurrection to fire on the US Army, he resorted to conscription before the US, he ordered his conscript mass of soldiery to invade other US states.
Fortunately, his efforts were successful at preferentially getting those who supported the slave power in the insurrection states killed, and getting those who didn’t support the slave power in the south to desert. Further, he alienated foreign nations so much that he was never able to get recognition by any foreign government.
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posted on
07/08/2013 8:27:54 PM PDT
by
donmeaker
(Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Lincoln saw what John Brown had tried to do at Harpers Ferry and expanded it to a monstrous size. If what John Brown did made him a terrorist, what do we call Abraham Lincoln?
Lincoln was to the nineteenth century what Pol Pot was to the twentieth century.
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posted on
07/08/2013 8:38:33 PM PDT
by
Tau Food
(Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
I read The New Dealers War and it is excellent.
423
posted on
07/08/2013 8:57:03 PM PDT
by
Pelham
(Deportation is the law. When it's not enforced you get California)
To: CougarGA7
“For me Union territory is the land that was under the governmental authority of the United States of America during the American Civil War.”
Yawn. I suppose you don’t believe that any states were confederate. This is boring.
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posted on
07/08/2013 9:00:52 PM PDT
by
JCBreckenridge
("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
To: donmeaker
Not at the start of the war it wasn’t.
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posted on
07/08/2013 9:01:35 PM PDT
by
JCBreckenridge
("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
To: Tau Food
Except that Lincoln didn’t do what John Brown did. John Brown started insurrection in an attempt to end slavery. He failed because the US government put down the insurrection.
Jeff Davis tried to start an insurrection that would promote slavery. He failed because the US government put down the insurrection.
Lincoln tried to end and insurrection started to promote slavery, and the EP was a wartime measure to weaken the insurrection, so the US could put down the insurrection.
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posted on
07/08/2013 9:11:26 PM PDT
by
donmeaker
(Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
To: JCBreckenridge
The pretended confederacy had no legal existance. Its pretended laws could be enforced by a pretended authority, but its authority was a nullity, therefore any restrictions placed on any person under its pretended authority to enforces its pretended laws was kidnapping, and any execution of any person under its pretended laws was a murder.
427
posted on
07/08/2013 9:14:32 PM PDT
by
donmeaker
(Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
To: JCBreckenridge
To which “it” do you refer?
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posted on
07/08/2013 9:15:31 PM PDT
by
donmeaker
(Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
To: CougarGA7
That is true. Certainly TR didn’t have the excuse of pellagra.
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posted on
07/08/2013 9:17:12 PM PDT
by
donmeaker
(Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
To: JCBreckenridge
Yawn. I suppose you dont believe that any states were confederate. This is boring. That's amusing. Do explain your logic for this statement because I'd love to see how you arrived at this conclusion.
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posted on
07/08/2013 9:25:11 PM PDT
by
CougarGA7
("War is an outcome based activity" - Dr. Robert Citino)
To: donmeaker
Except for the fact that the Bible purportedly states God’s will which by definition is eternal. From a human perspective you would be correct. From the perspective of Divine revelation it would seem that the truth of your statement is problematical.
431
posted on
07/09/2013 8:50:24 AM PDT
by
AEMILIUS PAULUS
(It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Ah but G-ds will was written by failable men, and translated by faillable men, and worst yet, applied to their current environment by faillable men.
432
posted on
07/09/2013 4:27:45 PM PDT
by
donmeaker
(Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
To: JCBreckenridge
You’ll notice these Lincoln butt boys always want the last post. It is unreal these people.
433
posted on
07/09/2013 5:04:10 PM PDT
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: donmeaker
God’s will has been interpreted by fallible men. However, there are rules of interpretation and there are words which are not really ambiguous.
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posted on
07/09/2013 5:32:27 PM PDT
by
AEMILIUS PAULUS
(It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
To: Tau Food
If what John Brown did made him a terrorist, what do we call Abraham Lincoln? Mr. President.
435
posted on
07/09/2013 5:39:13 PM PDT
by
0.E.O
To: 0.E.O
;-)
You just don't seem to be impressed by my argument. And, I worked very hard to concoct it.
436
posted on
07/09/2013 5:42:08 PM PDT
by
Tau Food
(Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
To: central_va
Youll notice these Lincoln butt boys always want the last post. It is unreal these people.Putting up another post complaining about other people always wanting the last post is the funniest thing I've seen all day.
437
posted on
07/09/2013 6:08:54 PM PDT
by
Bubba Ho-Tep
("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Usually the liberals frame it, “OK (epithet) I’ll give you the last word.......go!” ;-)
438
posted on
07/09/2013 6:17:19 PM PDT
by
rockrr
(Everything is different now...)
To: rockrr
Ok, I get the last post? No response necessary.
439
posted on
07/09/2013 6:23:30 PM PDT
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: central_va
You’re the one obsessed and driven to distraction over it. The rest of us are just having fun. Knock yourself out ;-)
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posted on
07/09/2013 7:08:26 PM PDT
by
rockrr
(Everything is different now...)
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