Late Pope John Paul II to get sainthood, Vatican says

CNN ^ | Hada Messia

[Mrs. Don-o]

"Almira Gulch...For twenty-three years I've been dying to tell you what I thought of you! And now...well, being a Christian woman, I can't say it!"

[Wanderer99]

Tainted sainthood hardly. Even Billy Graham called John Paul II a saint. He, Reagan and Thatcher changed the world. Too bad it’s changed back.

The only force in the universe strong enough to defeat the masses of idiots went to the cross 2000 years ago and he won't be back for another 2000000000000000000000000 years.

[Wanderer99]

The Vatican bureaucracy is smaller than the University of Notre Dame, and its budget is smaller than Harvard's endowment. The Church oversees a worldwide flock of 1 billion people. Do you think that the pope is omniscient?

Meanwhile St Obama of Hell couldn't even look after Benghazi but is instantly excused by his followers.

[NELSON111]

If he wasn’t a saint when he died, he isn’t becoming one now...

Yep. Scripture says I'm already a saint...and that anything other than that has its roots in Babylon...

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Amen

[montaine]

I will say that we have a difference of opinion on Vatican II and where Angelo Roncali will spend eternity and leave it at that.
About our Holy Fathers: all of them find out pretty quickly that what they say, goes. JPII immediately rehabilitated Sr. Faustina and changed the rules to canonize her. (the change from which his own cause benefits) Benedict XVI quickly righted a great wrong by issuing his moto propito about the Tridentine mass, then when storms shook the ship of the Church, he found the lifeboat and bailed. And the self-styled “bishop of the diocese of Rome” nevertheless used his pontifical powers to find a way to make someone he approved of a Saint of the Catholic Church, despite the previously slackened rules.
So they know they can do what they want. So, when something is conspicuously left undone by a saint like JPII(Vatican Bank, sex scandal, “gay lobbies” in the church) what are we poor laity to believe, what we hear from the Vatican, or our own lying eyes?

[vox_freedom]

I agree.

[vox_freedom]

ditto’s.

[Vanders9]

I disagree. I think he is a saint. But then I think my definition of saint isnt quite the same as that propounded by the Vatican.

I thought you had to do at least two miracles to get the official Catholic stamp of holiness?

[Vanders9]

Yeah, I wonder why people would ever believe that thinking for yourself instead of taking the word of an obscure group of wise men would be a good thing?

[Vanders9]

LOL...well Catholics sure think he is!!

[Vanders9]

Do you think your last comment is really honoring to God?

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

—— LOL...well Catholics sure think he is!! ——

You may be confusing what Catholics believe, and what Protestants think Catholics believe.

[Morgana]

I think my last comment was truthful based on past experience.

[SpirituTuo]

It is easy to sit back and judge. While established by Jesus Christ, the church is still operated by humans.

We expect perfection, but is that realistic?

Consider how Pius XII has been treated. He didn’t “do enough,” to stop the Holocaust.

The position of Supreme Pontiff is exhausting to consider, and we should be willing to cut him a little slack.

[SpirituTuo]

Were you born omniscient? Did you discover all of the world’s truths, science, philosophy, etc., all by yourself?

Who taught you anything?

[Vanders9]

Well you must have had some very bad experiences to dismiss the spiritual experiences of hundreds of millions of people so lightly. I’m sorry.

[Vanders9]

Yeah, I know Papal Infallibility is only restricted to certain times and places but all the same I just found the way that statement was put really funny.

[Vanders9]

No, but then neither was anyone else.

[SevenofNine]

I think December 8 probably get chosen as sainthood swearing in or whatver they call it in Cathoic church