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To: cripplecreek

Oh, I suppose it was a Socialist that wrote those words on the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty. You deny the American heritage which you claim to be defending. Instead, you’re against these immigrants because then you have to pay for them (a Socialist argument). Sounds like you’re the one that needs to join the Democratic Nation Socialist Party.


20 posted on 07/03/2013 5:58:10 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

You are pathetic garbage.


22 posted on 07/03/2013 6:03:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: PapaNew
So sorry to burst your bubble but we did have quotas on specific groups, they had to go first through Ellis Island to make certain that they had no infectious diseases to inflict on American citizens and the only way one immigrant came to America was with a sponsor, usually a relative of some kind and that person would be responsible financially for that immigrant period!

No immigrant ever got, housing, medical, food stamps or food, in state tuition or government sponsored loan. Their family stayed back in the "old country" until they could provide for them themselves, not their neighbors through welfare.

When unemployment grew, no immigrants were allowed in.

I know these things as I am an amateur genealogist and study lots about Immigration, Ellis Island and naturalization.

I'm not prejudiced against legal immigration, when we need it but never when we don't. I also am totally against illegal immigration of any kind for any reason, the reason being I know far too many folks from Canada and other Western European countries who'd love to come here legally but are not permitted to by our Department of State, in favor of non-English speaking peoples from Third World countries with no skills!

Lastly, we need to assimilate those already here and put a hold on all immigration as we are not lacking for workers, regardless what corporations are telling us as they do have enough engineers, etc. they'd rather have someone from the Far East who will work for one-fifth of American wages.

45 posted on 07/03/2013 8:17:40 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: PapaNew

If you don’t understand r/K selection, and how it molded our ideologies, you don’t understand politics. We are group-competitive. That Conservatives want to compete as a group against outgroups.

The Socialist, r-selected, bunnyman position is the whole aversion to group-competition which is the “We are the world” argument.

Either you see America as an entity, and stand beside your fellow Americans in the group competition of global economics, or you side with our enemies and out-groups, in which case you should openly accept you have no in-group, and most assuredly are not part of ours. We want our group healthy and successful.

Back in the day, when you had to produce in this country, or starve, we could have open doors, because only the strong and productive would come here. With today’s cradle to grave welfare state, we will be a magnet for the leeches, and that can no longer be, or we will cease to be a great power.

Either you want America strong and powerful, for Americans, or you might as well be a traitor or enemy to every American in this nation. Today, that means booting the illegals and law breakers, and definitely not giving them the power to elect our leaders.

Unless you want Democrats in power.

Join the in-group.


55 posted on 07/04/2013 4:26:31 AM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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To: PapaNew
Instead, you’re against these immigrants because then you have to pay for them (a Socialist argument).

You realize that you've got that completely backwards. The fact that we have to pay for them itself is the result of socialism. The fact that we don't want to pay for them is based on the principle of the same type of rugged individualism that created what was once the greatest nation on earth.

It's bad enough that the productive among us has to carry the deadwood that makes up the base of the DemocRAT party - we don't need to be importing more welfare-sucking deadbeats.

58 posted on 07/04/2013 5:04:36 AM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: PapaNew; bmwcyle; cripplecreek
Learn something, PapaNew.
78 posted on 07/04/2013 6:35:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If illegal aliens voted (R), then the Dems would create the tightest border security in the world.)
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