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Sarah Palin Should Start a 'Freedom Party' (within the GOP?)
The Hill ^ | 07/01/13 12:13 PM ET | By Bernie Quigley

Posted on 07/01/2013 4:01:36 PM PDT by drewh

For the first time since the mid 1800s we hear today liberty voices rising from elected state officials including governors. But they're not in D.C.; instead they're in Kansas, Georgia, Michigan, Missouri and dozens of other states, making their own decisions on abortion, guns, constitutional law, ObamaCare, and practically everything.

But no leader yet emerges, and no center. It is, like Pirandello’s play, with actors in search of a theater and a leader.

Actually a leader is emerging: Sarah Palin. But new ideas need new forms to start again the conversation and bring in a new generation. For a fresh start, it should be distanced away from New York, D.C. and Los Angeles, which are all connected to a singular purpose. And it should leave out the decadent establishment press, described recently as “Versailles.” There is little journalism left, only the endless meanderings of adolescent irony, the wink, the nudge and knowing asides of insider jokes and caustic laughter.

There are more than 30 states culturally and politically related today in the center of the country speaking with a single voice. This is American heartland. A conference might be held to look toward a better and more representative future, because this is not about 2016 specifically, but the greater American future.

And regarding 2016, the big Eastern establishment money and influence will all line up behind New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) , and this time, they will not let go. But at every event, Palin brings the crowd to its feet. As a “constitutional conservative,” she could flip the establishment. Sen. Rand Paul’s (R-Ky.) filibuster suggests it is ripe for change. The Bob Dole don’t-trust-anyone-under-70 crowd and the insular Weekly Standard group, which talks so disagreeably to itself, would stay away. But Palin could take the day.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: bringsanity; newparty; palin; patriot; republicanparty; republicans; restoresanity; rnc; sarah; sarahpalin; takecontrol; thirdparty
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To: Nextrush
Phony conservative rhetoric and attacks on Obama’s failures are not substitutes for conservative policy.

Exactly.

81 posted on 07/01/2013 6:41:49 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: supercat
"Libertarianism" as espoused by its official party is an oxymoron.

Libertarian principle is to refrain from using government except where necessary. Government is the only thign forcing people to accommodate homosexuality. It's the only thing forcing people to accomodate abortion. Libertarian principle in larger government would free local communities to govern themselves as their people see fit. It would free people to reap the consequences, positive and negative, of their choices. Most important, in keeping government out of the picture, it would free Christianity to do what it does best. Government in all its Federal heavy-handedness counteracts the actual pursuit of Christian values.

82 posted on 07/01/2013 6:49:42 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Norm Lenhart
No Norm, we're sick of your lying and stupid behavior. Lying is a habit you've slipped into, it's disgusting and you're a foul creature, plus you're amongst the dumbest posters on FR.

You serve darkness and preen like you're a God, but you're a liar, a dissembler, and a moron.

It's who you are. Deal with it.

83 posted on 07/01/2013 6:54:50 PM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: ansel12
Ansell, talk about "denying what is."

Do you DENY that Reagan said libertarianism was at the heart of conservatism? If you don't "deny what is," then, PLEASE spare a few words here to square Ronald Reagan's stupidity with your wisdom.

Do you DENY that Thomas Sowell is one of the finest conservative minds in American politics today? If you don't "deny what is," then PLEASE show me WHERE Thomas Sowell falls into the leftist camp. Show me his words (they are plentiful).

"Silly" is a very stupid word for you to be tossing around.

84 posted on 07/01/2013 6:56:30 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

Ronald Reagan was no libertarian.

That is why you pluck that quote out of a 1975 interview that candidate Reagan had with a libertarian publication, first he said something that made Reagan such a smooth and effective politician, he warmed up his libertarian audience with a sympathetic bone, and then he proceeded to tell the libertarians how he was a social conservative and not a libertarian.


85 posted on 07/01/2013 7:02:31 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: Finny
The Founders knew it and that's the way they wrote the Constitution without outlawing prostitution, sodomy, gambling, etc. They figured the people of the States would govern themselves. The Founders were libertarian enough in principle to leave those very kinds of things OUT of the Constitution.

That is sick, twisted, and perverted, you are claiming that America was founded with an intentional path to gay marriage and homosexuals adopting and serving in the military and all the rest of the leftist satanic agenda listed in post 66.

The people who created America were such right-wing fundamentalist Christians that it never occurred to anyone that your agenda was even humanly possible, much less that it would be discovered in the constitution that they were fighting for and forming this Christian nation upon.

86 posted on 07/01/2013 7:03:06 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: Finny

The party is a perfect representation of libertarian thought and philosophy.

That is why you wouldn’t answer post 80.

Since today’s topic is homosexuality, tell us where libertarianism is in opposition to this libertarian position.

1.3 Personal Relationships (libertarian)
Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government’s treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships.


87 posted on 07/01/2013 7:06:56 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: Lakeshark
Who said anything about you suggestion that Romney was anyone's first choice? Where did that come from? I never even thought, let alone implied, that you did. Hmmm!

But speaking of suggestions, why don't you suggest what Romney would be doing right now if you had "won"?

88 posted on 07/01/2013 7:07:59 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: bert

I’ve heard of the RSC but have not studied them. I’ve heard talk that RSC has 170 conservative members.

What’s your take on that?

I also know that some Tea Party members from the states who were recently elected have joined.

I also know that conservatives and patriots now control 26 states. It’s looking like we have a pretty good farm team ready to move into the GOP nationally.

What’s your opinion on that?


89 posted on 07/01/2013 7:10:24 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: ansel12
You mean these words?

If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals .... The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is. Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. -- Ronald Reagan

- See more at: http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=ronald+reagan+libertarian+quote&d=4656480066865667&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=mjzbu_Ahy61FheecXhTR185bHwM58Bo9#sthash.SDydvWiU.dpuf

Ansell, BE HONEST. Rick Santorum is a "conservative" and not a "libertarian," but where Rick Santorum would -- like a libertarian -- defund and abolisth Planned Parenthood, he would REPLACE IT with all those tax dollars that funded Planned Parenthood, with progras to promote adoption. IS THAT "CONSERVATIVE"??? No, it is what a misnomer of a conservative, to use Reagan's word, would do.

Reagan and I understand what you willfully blind yourself to: that libertarian principle is necessary to make conservatism work.

How about that leftist Thomas Sowell?

92 posted on 07/01/2013 7:22:41 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

Seriously, rather than a growing list of names and personalities covering 40 years and quotes taken out of context and calling Santorum conservative and Sowell as a social leftist, why not answer this most pertinent question.


Since today’s topic is homosexuality, tell us where libertarianism is in opposition to this libertarian position.

1.3 Personal Relationships (libertarian)
Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government’s treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships.


94 posted on 07/01/2013 7:27:06 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: Lakeshark
you think Romney is the same as a Marxist destroyer. That's insane.

Instead of just making the claim, post some evidence to show it, please. What part of the Marxist destroyer path would he be resisting?

95 posted on 07/01/2013 7:27:59 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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