To: OneWingedShark
Again, if you freely offer up information about yourself to a third person (your phone company) and they freely offer up that information to the government, there really isn't much of a "due process" issue.
Also, the FISA court is one which grants warrants - it is not a court in which people are accused or charged or indicted or convicted of crimes.
Warrants are always obtained secretly - it is kind of the point of a warrant.
To: wideawake; OneWingedShark
>> “Warrants are always obtained secretly - it is kind of the point of a warrant” <<
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The constitution offers no such thing as the secrecy of a warrant. Court proceedings are all assumed to be open to public scrutiny, and any secrecy must be publicly requested in open court by requesting a meeting in chambers.
93 posted on
07/01/2013 9:42:15 AM PDT by
editor-surveyor
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To: wideawake
Also, the FISA court is one which grants warrants - it is not a court in which people are accused or charged or indicted or convicted of crimes.
Warrants are always obtained secretly - it is kind of the point of a warrant. These aren't just warrants, these are general warrants -- Writs of Assistance, in all but name -- and what do they base these warrant issuance on? Why on that you might be, not are, and then go fishing for the proof.
178 posted on
07/01/2013 12:51:46 PM PDT by
OneWingedShark
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