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To: ek_hornbeck
Do I take your statement to mean that you support the US government's newfound "right" to wiretap its own citizens without warrant?

Again, governments do not have "rights" - they have powers.

And we are not discussing warrantless wiretaps. We are discussing entities like phone companies and search engines sharing data they have legally collected with the NSA.

It is the advocates of Big Brother such as yourself, those who prefer promises of "security" to liberty.

Personal attacks are not a substitute for rational discourse.

232 posted on 07/02/2013 7:55:49 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
Personal attacks are not a substitute for rational discourse.

And dismissing your ideological opponents as "so-called conservatives" isn't a personal attack?

233 posted on 07/02/2013 8:00:30 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: wideawake
Again, governments do not have "rights" - they have powers.

Ever-expanding powers, one might add, facilitated by those on the Left who demand cradle to grave social services in the name of "social justice", and those on the Right who want a police state in the name of "security."

235 posted on 07/02/2013 8:02:38 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: wideawake
Personal attacks are not a substitute for rational discourse.

Defending unconstitutional violations of the US Constitution by a government which has demonstrated NO respect of the USCON nor WE The People is not a substitute for any "patriotism" by ANY definition.

You Sir, are on the wrong side of history, the wrong side of the US Constitution, and the wrong side of the principles from which this Republic was Founded -- that is BY the People, and FOR the People. Secret Stasi have no place in our Constitution.

236 posted on 07/02/2013 8:09:31 AM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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