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To: Timber Rattler

The shelters aren’t perfect, nothing is, but for all 19 to fail?

Something is very wrong here.


3 posted on 07/01/2013 8:34:21 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: null and void

careful Boss...the fire turned in 11 minutes from 6 mph to over 50 mph right across them...the aluminum sleeve cover was all they had and most could get no oxygen...I live here and know the facts


4 posted on 07/01/2013 8:39:03 AM PDT by advertising guy (golf in june in Phoenix ? it's so dry, our gators use Gold Bond)
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To: null and void
The shelters aren’t perfect, nothing is, but for all 19 to fail?

The devices didn't fail. The environment simply exceeded what they were designed for.

I remember several years ago the same thing happened in Colorado killing about the same number of firefighters --many of whom were college-aged volunteers. The winds shifted and the flames spread faster than they could run for their lives. They roasted inside their heat-resistant covers on the mountainside. It caused a huge outcry because they were killed while fighting to save property. No lives were in danger (except their's).

5 posted on 07/01/2013 8:42:49 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: null and void
The shelters aren’t perfect, nothing is, but for all 19 to fail?

The shelters protect from fire and heat, but not from lack of oxygen or smoke inhalation. I don't think the Hotshots carry oxygen tanks and masks, but I could be wrong.

21 posted on 07/01/2013 9:19:41 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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Something is very wrong here
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Sometimes these fires are too hot and sustained to allow these measures to protect the occupant. Fire will use ALL the oxygen which I surmise was a component in this case.


46 posted on 07/01/2013 3:01:51 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Any law repugnant to the Constitutuon is null and void.....ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS! It's the Law.)
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