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To: RoosterRedux
Zimmerman was on bottom right before the shot

Zimmerman was the one screaming all along, and right before the shot

Witnesses who think the opposite of the above are only those who were basing their assumptions on the images in the media portraying Martin as a young boy, and based on that assumed the larger man on top must be Zimmerman, and the one with the higher sounding voice (scream) must be Martin. These are also witnesses who were either far away or who only heard the event.

Zimmerman's derogatory comments were aimed at those who had been burglarizing his neighborhood, were made long before the encounter, and occurred when he was talking about the break-ins with the police. Martin's derogatory comments were aimed directly at Zimmerman, occurred right before the encounter, and were made while he was talking about Zimmerman on the phone.

Zimmerman was sustained multiple injuries, and Martin sustained none, right before the shot

Martin either broke Zimmerman's nose right before the fight, proving that it was his aggression which led them to be in that position, or he broke his nose while his head was on the ground, which would put anyone in fear of their life.

Putting aside the obvious defense that Martin may have bene reaching for Zimmerman's gun, arguing (as the prosecution seems to be doing) that someone in Zimmerman's position (on bottom) should wait until he sustains a life-threatening injury before being able to use his weapon in self-defense is utterly ridiculous. When you've been pinned to the ground, your nose has already been broken, you're yelling repeatedly for help, you and the attacker know that neighbors are calling 911, AND despite this the attack continues, you have ample reason to fear that the next injury you sustain will be life threatening.
75 posted on 06/28/2013 10:33:53 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: zencycler
GZ said in his interview with Hannity in July 2012 that he was afraid he would lose consciousness because of what Trayvon was doing. He described how he was managing to shimmy away from the concrete--his trouble didn't end because Trayvon had his hand over his mouth. Either at this point or earlier GZ was worrying about being suffocated. It was his shimmying that caused his jacket to open up in a way that let Trayvon catch sight of the gun. What do people think Trayvon would have done with the gun if he had managed to get control of it?

Zimmerman was screaming because he was hoping the cops were already there and might hear him.

Geraldo yesterday repeated the theme that GZ provoked the fight by his reprehensible conduct (I forget exactly which adjective he used). Unfortunately this is what a lot of people think because of the media coverage. It's ironic that when Geraldo talks about Aaron Hernandez he attributes his killing of Lloyd and possibly two other men as based on anger because the other person somehow disrespected him--and doesn't see that this is the likely explanation for why Trayvon attacked Zimmerman.

86 posted on 06/29/2013 8:04:50 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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