Posted on 06/28/2013 2:34:32 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
Just to preface her post, a good point by DrewM:
DrewM @DrewMTips
How many ppl saying "cut Marco slack. Don't write him off in 16" would FREAK out if he became pro-choice & helped Dems loosen abortion laws? 2:41 PM - 28 Jun 2013
We all have our red line issues, as Drew says. Offhand, I cant think of a single person I know privately or on Twitter who supports (or is indifferent to) the Gang of Eight bill and who also traditionally has treated border security as a red line. Everyone wants better border security and everybody thinks its important for immigrants to follow the rule of law, but when push comes to shove, some people are okay with bending on this in the name of other political goals and others are not. If you believe the polls about background checks and gun control, we might very well win a few extra votes by caving on that too. Want to do that? We might also win some votes by declaring our support for abortion in the first trimester. Okay to do that? We all have our red lines.
Heres Palin drawing a red line of her own for people angry about the big amnesty pander. Whole post is at the link, but this is the key bit:
Great job, GOP establishment. Youve just abandoned the Reagan Democrats with this amnesty bill, and we needed them to enlarge that tent of which you so often speak. Its depressing to consider that the House of Representatives is threatening to pass some version of this nonsensical bill in the coming weeks.
Once again, Ill point out the obvious to you: it was the loss of working class voters in swing states that cost us the 2012 election, not the Hispanic vote. Legal immigrants respect the rule of law and can see how self-centered a politician must be to fill this amnesty bill with favors, earmarks, and crony capitalists pork, and call it good. You disrespect Hispanics with your assumption that they desire ignoring the rule of law.
Folks like me are barely hanging on to our enlistment papers in any political party and its precisely because flip-flopping political actions like amnesty force us to ask how much more bull from both the elephants in the Republican Party and the jackasses in the Democrat Party we have to swallow before these political machines totally abandon the average commonsense hardworking American. Now we turn to watch the House. If they bless this new bi-partisan hyper-partisan devastating plan for amnesty, well know that both private political parties have finally turned their backs on us. It will then be time to show our parties hierarchies what we think of being members of either one of these out-of-touch, arrogant, and dysfunctional political machines.
I dont know how disrespected Hispanics feel by the immigration reform push; according to Pew, 90 percent think illegals should have a way to stay legally in the U.S. and 59 percent think they should be allowed to apply for legal status even before border improvements have been made. Her broader point, though, about the partys crushing failure to engage effectively with the working- and middle-class is spot on. Thats what I was getting at in the McCain post: This amnesty charade is simply the GOPs way of dressing a gaping economic wound that cuts across racial demographics by putting an identity-politics band-aid on it, as if legalizing more cheap labor to make things even harder on working-class Americans doesnt make the problem worse. The real reason to despair and start thinking third-party isnt the amnesty bill itself, its the fact that this is what the party feels compelled to resort to now in lieu of building a better economic agenda. If they cant figure out how to talk to people who arent entrepreneurs about pocketbook issues, then why keep donating to them and organizing for them? Theyve flunked politics 101. Were pumping a dry well here.
I would SWIM over the pond to join that party and the New America.
Are you in the UK?
it is an issue of life or death of the republic now.
F the Whigs!
Exactly! They are all disgusting and need to get the message.
Maybe, with luck and a miracle or three, you might have to unpack and stay, but I'd start looking for a good moving company early to beat the rush getting the Dodge outta hell.
Sarah, you and the TEA party are/were the GOP's last hope. Oh well, you did all that could be done, but...they do NOT want to change and are happy as they are.
At some point, the strong give up and leave; the weak give up and stay and the rest just drift away.
Norway.
But our pols are about as islamofascist as the british ones.
F the Whigs!
And the Turn Coats. 99.5% of them are Turn Coats.
We all raise our hands Noamie, we have had enough of this hsit, so we take it in the shorts for 2 election cycles, build it damn it they will come. Yes I am that pissed @ the GOP.
No maybe’s about it. Time to go. And time to setup to the plate instead of saying empty threats.
I don’t think there’s an issue that Governor Palin has not found herself on the right side of. Her political compass is extraordinarily true.
I can tell you right now, that I will support 3rd Party every way I can should the House cave. The GOP has been on life support with me for some time now.
Do I think a 3rd Party stands a chance in the next election? Hell no. The next 10 elections? Nope. I think it's a safe bet that I'll never see "conservative" politics on a national level again in my lifetime (I'm 45). But maybe my grandchildren or further on down will be the ones to reclaim this nation. I don't know. But dammit, it has to start somewhere! May as well be now, with me.
May I suggest Party in Government. PIG
time to stop the House is now non-violent but forceful demonstrations in DC and home offices. it might be the last chance for our nation before the cartridge box.
Come over. We need good people.
I meant Step Up.
Once the "Criminal Illegals are Better and more Fertile than Americans bill passes, it's over.
The only possible way to turn the tide is for the States to act when a cataclysmic event occurs (likely financial)
When such an event happens, the States will have one peaceful short term window of opportunity to drastically removed from the Federal leviathan, all unconstitutional functions.
Correct. It will make the Tea Party of 2010 look tame.
There is an incredible amount of righteous anger building -- it is aimed at the GOPe and the evil left.
A new Second party can channel that anger into a new awakening of Liberty.
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