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To: Fawn

I don’t think there is a chance the prosecution will be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that GZ had NO reason to be in fear for his life. Just the injuries he sustained should be sufficient. The only other way to defeat the self-defense claim would be to show that he attacked TM first. There is absolutely no physical evidence to suggest that, and no eyewitnesses saw the beginning of the struggle. GZ doesn’t have to prove he didn’t start the fight - the state would have to prove he did. With no wounds on TM other than the gunshot wound and the banged-up knuckles, I don’t see how they prove that.


872 posted on 06/28/2013 12:46:24 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative
I don’t think there is a chance the prosecution will be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that GZ had NO reason to be in fear for his life. Just the injuries he sustained should be sufficient. The only other way to defeat the self-defense claim would be to show that he attacked TM first. There is absolutely no physical evidence to suggest that, and no eyewitnesses saw the beginning of the struggle. GZ doesn’t have to prove he didn’t start the fight - the state would have to prove he did. With no wounds on TM other than the gunshot wound and the banged-up knuckles, I don’t see how they prove that.

Good....please tell the jury this too :)

882 posted on 06/28/2013 12:50:31 PM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: CA Conservative

But wait, the Prosecution can still bring forward;

A Mail Carrier to verify where everyone involved actually lived.

A high school principal to verify that TM is TM and that the parents aren’t guilty of false identity.

The coroner to verify that TM is “really and truly dead”.

There is a bunch we don’t know yet, not for sure anyway -—


900 posted on 06/28/2013 12:57:08 PM PDT by Kansas58
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