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To: OneWingedShark; Outraged At FLA; PapaNew

Some facts, the argument to remove any legal definition of marriage would be the end of marriage anyway, since it wouldn’t exist and the word would not have any definition at all.

Besides, government or a controlling religion/authority has always had to rule on marriage, society cannot function without it, that is why the Romans, the Greeks, the Apache, New Guinea headhunters, people that we have never heard of, all had to have marriage laws, property, children, inheritance, warrior deaths in service, marriage law is not something that politicians cooked up a 100 years ago.

Besides, why waste time on such childish LIBERTARIAN silliness anyway. DON’T WASTE TIME IGNORING ACTUAL POLITICS AND REAL LIFE AND CURRENT LEGISLATION AND ELECTIONS BY TRYING TO PRETEND THAT MARRIAGE WILL BE REMOVED FROM LAW AND GOVERNMENT IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO OR 20 ANYWAY, THAT ARGUMENT DOESN’T EXIST, AND QUIT PRETENDING THAT IT DOES.


284 posted on 06/26/2013 8:02:35 AM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarians, Gays = in all marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.)
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To: ansel12

Next up, I hear Triad’s are wanting their civil rights to marry.


285 posted on 06/26/2013 8:05:16 AM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: ansel12

Ok, so without government telling us how we define our own personal relationships, we are doomed. That’s just wonderful. When did the Republican party decide that it needed government so much? I thought it was the party for smaller government? No, it isn’t anymore. It is full of a bunch of self righteous hypocrites who wish to use the same jack boots as the left to push their agenda. It isn’t about liberty anymore, just the power to ram your beliefs on others.

This is why we lose and this is why we will continue to lose. No amount of prayer is going to fix that because even Jesus would be sickened by such beliefs.


287 posted on 06/26/2013 8:06:07 AM PDT by Outraged At FLA
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To: ansel12
Well, as far as I know, every state has made marriage a state's issue requiring licenses etc. Hey, if the locals vote for it, then they should have it.

My issue is KEEP THE LUNK-HEADED FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OUT OF WHERE IT DOESN'T BELONG.

297 posted on 06/26/2013 8:10:13 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: ansel12
Some facts, the argument to remove any legal definition of marriage would be the end of marriage anyway, since it wouldn’t exist and the word would not have any definition at all.

Sure it would exist, and sure it would have meaning — again, not everything is a legal matter.
Moreover, why not let civil suits settle the matters such as inheritance?

Besides, government or a controlling religion/authority has always had to rule on marriage, society cannot function without it, that is why the Romans, the Greeks, the Apache, New Guinea headhunters, people that we have never heard of, all had to have marriage laws, property, children, inheritance, warrior deaths in service, marriage law is not something that politicians cooked up a 100 years ago.

Ah, but now you're conflating civil government with religion; I have never asserted that marriage was not to have a definition, or that there was no authority which could define it: merely that such authority was not the civil government's proper purview.

Besides, why waste time on such childish LIBERTARIAN silliness anyway. DON’T WASTE TIME IGNORING ACTUAL POLITICS AND REAL LIFE AND CURRENT LEGISLATION AND ELECTIONS BY TRYING TO PRETEND THAT MARRIAGE WILL BE REMOVED FROM LAW AND GOVERNMENT IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO OR 20 ANYWAY, THAT ARGUMENT DOESN’T EXIST, AND QUIT PRETENDING THAT IT DOES.

Who's ignoring politics? I've done some work challenging [or trying to] contraconstitutional statutes and I've put some thought into an solution to the immigration [amnesty] bull.

299 posted on 06/26/2013 8:11:08 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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