Posted on 06/25/2013 2:54:48 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Never mind the thousands of jobs that this pipeline would create.
His Saudi masters don’t like the American competition!
Same logic!
How does the pollution from a pipeline compare to the pollution from an endless string of ocean-going tankers?
That seems like a relatively easy calculation.
It’s OK Bam, we’re going to refine this oil into gasoline and put it in our cars, but only the aroma of fresh Skittles will come out the back end. Now sign it and go play golf or something.
Or Warren Buffet's trains.
EVER WONDER WHAT A POS LOOKS LIKE......NOW YOU KNOW
What “greenhouse gas” would that be? Water vapor? Oxygen?
Both are in VASTLY greater proportions in the earth’s atmosphere than carbon dioxide. It has NOT been shown that carbon dioxide has any effect that even remotely approaches that of water vapor when it comes to affecting the climate. At any given time, there is from 20 times to over 100 times the amount of water vapor carried in the earth’s atmosphere than there is of carbon dioxide, and water vapor has a few unique characteristics that are way beyond anything that carbon dioxide is capable of.
For one thing, it is much lighter, and rises far higher in the atmosphere, forming clouds at the surface of the earth up to 40,000 feet or more, and water vapor has a “triple point” that carbon dioxide cannot achieve at normal atmospheric pressure or at ambient temperatures as exist on the earth’s surface. The water molecule can exist as a solid (ice), liquid (come on, don’t tell me you don’t know what WATER is), and as a vapor, colorless and to our senses, tasteless and odorless. Carbon dioxide is all these things as water vapor as a gas, but it may only become a solid at extreme low temperatures, far too cold for life to sustain, and it sublimates directly to a gas under normal atmospheric conditions. Only under several atmospheres of pressure does it ever go into the liquid state.
It is this capacity for water vapor to change its state of existence readily that controls the warming and/or cooling of the earth, not carbon dioxide, which cannot move through these states of matter under surface terrestrial conditions. Anyone who tries to assert differently is either a charlatan or is hopelessly ignorant.
And the same goes for the horse you rode into town, Al Gore.
Clear and present danger, year five...
The enemy is within. :(
In a just world, protestors like Becky would have pay for my gasoline every time I had to fuel up.
How does the pollution from a pipeline compare to the pollution from an endless string of ocean-going tankers
Yea, especcially as they burn bunker oil that have to be heated to above 60c before it will ignite, must add to the carbondioxide quite a bit andthe keystone pipelineads O in tansportition, and as the carbon contentis ilar to heavy crude from the ME and less than crude oil from Venezuela
you’d think this was poitical or sumting,go figure
We don't worry about votes or campaign money.
That oil is moving one way or another. It can either go by pipeline or diesel train.
I realize we don't have the same sub rosa retirement portfolios that they have.
Bingo - I’ve got a relative in the industry - if the oil doesn’t go by pipeline, it goes by rail (numerous refineries are already gearing up for that expedient).
And it doesn’t take an Einstein to figure out which transport mode generates more CO2 (if one actually gives a rip about that canard). But don’t tell the donkeys - it’s the conservatives who are supposed to be anti-science, so the press allows the ‘rats to ignore even the most fundamental science whenever it suits their wishes.
I thought that Keystone would be likely to decrease greenhouse gas emissions. Look at all the trucks and trains taken out of service when that oil starts going through the pipeline.
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