[PieterCasparzen]

Everyone seems to overlook the fact that Snowden provided the government of China with independent verification that we have been spying on the government of China.

That is information that has nothing to do with US civil rights or the civil rights of anyone in the world.

It was a gift from Snowden to a dictatorship.

America gives a gift of hundreds of billions of profits in trade to China every year. In 2012 alone, according to census.gov, this amounted to a net trade balance worth approximately $315 billion dollars on the positive side for China.

Chinese are very active politically in the US, have operatives all throughout government and business.

China owns somewhere around trillion in US government debt.

The US-China relationship is not an "enemy" relationship.

[wideawake]

The US-China relationship is not an "enemy" relationship.

Sounds like the Jonathan Pollard argument.

[tacticalogic]

Obama treats every agency and aspect of the federal government as a resource to be used to advance his political agenda, not something to be managed to fulfill an oath of office to all Americans.

Intelligence information gathered on the PRC, or any foreign country will be used to help his friends and political allies like George Soros and the MB make a lot of money and advance their own political ambitions, and in turn help him advance his political agenda here. Anything that thows a monkeywrench into those gears does a service to the republic, IMHO.

When the national government becomes an enemy of the republic it all goes sideways, and we're there.