Posted on 06/25/2013 5:29:10 AM PDT by RummyChick
Otherwise, this is a waste of time. The engine in the street pretty much HAS to be what came out of the car.
Even then, I did spend some time, but did not linger enough while searching out Mercedes engines to determine what vehicles Mercedes put which engines in, or which might be available as option. Car and engine makers change their stuff frequently. That, and variety of "sizes" which can include different outward appearance of engines sort of thing could help explain the difference between what is shown in the diagram, to what I'm thinking I'm seeing laying curbside next to the street. Other than the one 5.5 diagram, I have yet to get much clear view of the back or rearward side of the other two sizes or models of engine (that I know of, there could be more, lol) ---but I did spend a bit of time looking. Sheesh. Do we even know anything of the car other than "Mercedes" and "new"? Two door sedan, ok. How many different models of two door sedan with similar roof-line does Mercedes make? I know that's asking a lot, but if there is question about the engine...then determining precise model is all but entirely mandatory. Have you bought any auto parts recently? Those who have will know what I'm talking about...
SLow down, please include source info for pics, etc., if we are trying to be honest about things. When linking to youtube videos, it would help to give the titles as are found on each particular youtube page. Who can remember the gibberish mixes of letter/number they are are tagged with? With better names, such as the exact word-names such things are tagged with, a person could better keep track of and refer back to one or the other.
Personally I am beginning to wonder if I wasn't premature before in speaking of possibilities...not including the guy plain and simple COULD have just been driving like a young jerk with a new "sporty" car. Even then...there could have been electronic 'control' glitch too, that was singular in it's fault.
But as to some "difference" which may be found in before-and-after engine comparisons; Look at the "top" of the engine diagram, where from off to the right the text indicates "Sophisticated engine electronics". The line leads to a plastic cover. That cover (or others like it, if the engine be slightly different model) was most likely ripped off when the engine went through the grill or front of the car when it slammed into the tree. The bulk of the car stopped. A mass of weight within (the engine/tranny) was likely able to break free and keep on truckin'.
In several locations journalists have to be fingerprinted by the local police for parking passes.
Perhaps the details will hide nothing important if potential whistleblowers' takeaway from this incident is: "My government will kill me if I step out of line."
you can do your own research or don’t do it
he was driving a 2013 mercedes C250 coupe.
It comes with a 7 speed auto transmission and I showed you a diagram of the transmission.
you can also see it on the mercedes web site.
I still can’t figure out why or how KTLA changed the video behind the burned out car during the day.
Same way video’s of TWA-800 somehow never showed up after that first day.
that Yum Yum donuts is at 724 North Highland. Next to it is the cleaners.
You have to cross a busy intersection to get to it from the crash site.
A Mercedes C250, every one, has a 1.8 liter 4-cylinder turbo engine stock rated a 201 horsepower. A C-class with a different engine has a different model designation, such a C300 or C63 AMG.
Wow is right.
Meanwhile Shep just did a long segment on Hastings. .had the guy on who got the email who said Hastings drove like a grandmother.
Hmmm.
Hat tip to Hetuck:
You are thinking of Bettina Viviano, a Hollywood film producer with little interest in politics who made the documentary “We Will Not Be Silenced” about the criminality that led to Obama receiving the Democrat party nomination in 2008. Obama Release Your Records (ORYR) has the audio and a text summary of an interview with Ms. Viviano here:
Some of the highlights quoted by ORYR are:
* The ORIGINAL BIRTHERS were Bill & Hillary Clinton. Bettina heard it DIRECTLY out of their mouths.
* From a top Democrat Party leader: George Soros had meetings with both Barack and Hillary telling them his agenda was to tear this country to the ground. Obama reportedly said “no problem.”
* She “knows for a fact” they threatened to kill Bill Clinton and did kill his friend, Bill Gwaltney.
DIfferent palm trees in green middle thing. In bottom photo many trees on R side of street, in top photo hardly any. Different white broken line in middle of street. Top photo is missing sign with arrow.
WTH???
Did his big story have something to do with the car he drove?
The diagram was engine and transmission.
That information is useful. Do you have a source for it? Can that be verified? I can hardly be expected to wade through even more youtube videos, news articles and the like for small tidbits which may or may not be "there". Conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones have already made nearly hour-long videos. Some amateurs have also chimed in. I'm not going to wade through hours and hours of stuff when you yourself may be able to provide further info. Checking for verification of information along the way is just part of it.
That information, not so much. I was attempting to answer your own questions, remember? I've already spent too much time on this...but will spend a bit more to do "some research" but for YOU and for general purposes, not necessarily for "me". So don't get lippy with me, ma'am, and we might get along better.
I'll see if I can determine what engines were available, then try and compare.
But still...what's the chances the engine/tranny which obviously did came out of the car, for it was filmed to be one scene immediately after the accident while it was still dark...was much tampered with right with there on the street in front of possible passer-by?
Unfortunately, engine computers are not typically bolted to engines themselves, but kept away from them, mounted elsewhere with just some wiring harness going to the engine itself. Which means possible evidence if any there and could be found through analysis, was most likely burned up in the fire.
So far, I'm finding that 2012 (C Class) 250's did NOT come with the engine diagrammed. The transmission is likely somewhat different too, even as both are 7-speed.
http://autos.jdpower.com/research/Mercedes-Benz/C-Class/2012/Sedan/index.htm
Under the Hood Five engine options are available on the 2012 Mercedes-Benz C-Class. The C250 features a 1.8-liter 4-cylinder engine rated at 201 horsepower mated with a 7-speed automatic transmission. The C300 4Matic employs a 3.0-liter, 228-horsepower V-6 engine. The C350 features a 3.5-liter, 302-horsepower V-6 engine. The C63 AMG and the C63 AMG Black Series both offer a 6.2-liter V-8 engine, which delivers 451 and 510 horsepower to the respective models. All models use rear-wheel drive except the C300, which features all-wheel drive.Confirmed at http://www.edmunds.com/mercedes-benz/c-class/2012/road-test1.html and also http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-shows/2011-geneva-auto-show/2012-mercedes-benz-c-class-coupe
Two Engines...but as the info indicates, only ONE engine for the 250 C Class. A 1.8 liter four cylinder.Mercedes says there will be two powerplants available, both direct-injected and both mated to the only gearbox available: a 7-speed TouchShift automatic with paddles on the steering wheel. The turbocharged 1.8-liter 4-cylinder in the C250 puts out 201 bhp at 2200 rpm, as well 229 lb.-ft. of torque from 2200 rpm to 4300. According to Mercedes, this C-Class hits 60 mph in a reasonably quick 7.1 seconds and has a top speed limited to 130 mph. Moreover, it's expected to get 24 mpg (EPA combined).
The C350 is powered by, you guessed it, Mercedes' 3.5-liter V-6, which produces 302 bhp at 6500 rpm and 273 lb.-ft. of torque from 3500 rpm to 5250. As with the C250, the C350 is limited to 130 mph but it reaches 60 mph much more quickly, in a claimed 5.9 seconds. As you'd expect, fuel economy suffers a bit, the C350 rated at 22 mpg (EPA combined).
A larger 3.5 liter six cylinder for the 350 C Class. And the engine you showed diagram of? It is the new high output 5.5 liter engine. Looking into it, that last one seems bad-to-the-bone at more than 500hp, whereas the little 1.8 liter 4-banger still produced well for it's displacement, putting out 200hp.
The 5.5 liter most likely does not share identical transmissions with the 1.8 liter and the 3.5 liter, though those last two are said to. The high output 5.5 engine might have similar outer casing, but would need heavier and stronger internals. Those can be difficult to fit into identical smaller input/output transmissions including requiring the same lighter casings to keep centered and contained more than double the energy.
Not really. At "Mercedes" web pages all I could find was current year model 2013. http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehicles/model/class-C/model-C250C If there is a way to view previous years models through that portal other than "pre-owned" vehicles...I didn't come across it.
Here's one used 250C, Arctic White, 201hp (matches with 1.8 liter info) and 7-speed transmission) http://www.mypreownedmercedes.com/used/2012/mercedes/c250/2012-mercedes-c250-white-rab-motors-for-sale-wddgj4hb7cf854015 that I reached through official Mercedes portal.
All that said...can you see now how verification of make/model/year should be established BEFORE reliance upon any photo comparisons?
do your research
dont do it
dont care
I dont go back to info when I am moving onto something else.
” he was driving a 2013 mercedes C250 coupe.
That information is useful. Do you have a source for it? Can that be verified?”
Btw, here is a PERFECT example.
Why should I go back and DO THE SAME SEARCH that you can do
GOOGLE IT.
You will find A LOT OF INFO ABOUT THE MAKE AND MODEL OF HIS CAR
those two photos are taken from different directions. so that could account for the difference you are seeing in the burn patterns, signage etc.
Btw, there is a photo at night with a psychic sign visible in someone’s yard
Thanks. I just found that much confirmed also too. It took me a while to search and compose reply, doing so while fiddling around with other things too, so I missed your own comment before posting my own last previous.
The C63 now carries the 5.5 liter diagrammed in http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3035329/posts?page=97#97. Those more top-of-the-line full power luxury models previously had what was referred to as 6.2, or 6.3 liter engine (depending upon who was doing the talking --for it seemed to be the same animal) and was just recently superseded by the 5.5 liter.
Before running your mouth at me...you should have acknowledged a bit of error on your part for having mistakenly presented one for another.
Before "moving on" all it would take is a few words. A sentence. It could begin with internet shorthand, three letters "OIC"..."I was wrong about that picture being properly representative of the engine" or something. Moving on from there-- hey great. That's how progress is made.
Don't tell me to do my own work, while I'm doing yours FOR you. That's is so-oo rude.
What is it about this place? It seems hardly anyone can admit to the slightest possible error.
Oh, that makes sense. So the big close together trees on the R side of the road start just past (or before, depending where you’re standing) the crash site. Also the passing lane white paint marks closer together change right at that spot, now that I look more carefully.
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