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The EPA Plants a Story - And in the process poisons the public debate about fracking.
National Review Online ^ | June 24, 2013 | Jillian Kay Melchior

Posted on 06/24/2013 2:24:24 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem

Queen Bozo No Oil will ban Fracking tomorrow...stock market goes down 890 points...


21 posted on 06/24/2013 3:48:35 PM PDT by Shady (Creed of the PC Police: You're guilty when we say you are...)
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To: Jim Robinson

Does envrionmental tobacco smoke ring a bell?


22 posted on 06/24/2013 5:13:01 PM PDT by oldsicilian
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To: Jim Robinson; Jacquerie

Would this had happened if the Forgotten Separation of Power, that between the individual states and the federal, government were restored?

17th Amendment ping!


23 posted on 06/24/2013 5:28:11 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: thackney

Any comments or insights?


24 posted on 06/24/2013 5:30:29 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

I’d love to see the 17th repealed, but I think determined states could assert their constitutional rights with or without the 17th.


25 posted on 06/24/2013 5:37:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: neverdem

The EPA leadership lies like a two-bit whore at work.

Don’t mean to demean the decent people there (the few that are left), but dishonesty and Soviet-style “disinformation” have been the hallmark of the EPA leaders under both Clinton (Carol Browner, a marxist in the International Socialists) and Obama (Lisa Jackson, Browner’s protege’, carrying on marxist, anti-free enterprise attacks on the economic structures/institutions of America).

Remember, Comrade Maoist “Van Jones” was Obama’s “Green Czar” (they must have been color blind. He was the “Red Czar”).

My science background cries at the lies, distortions, and disinformation that the EPA leadership has put out to justify their far-left policies. Facts are facts despite the Obama regime’s Orwellian use of words to obfuscate the truth.

Now the key question is whether Congress is going to hold serious hearings into this DELIBERATE EPA misuse of sciences and the lies that they promote to cover up their malfeasance of office.

Time for some perjury findings, firings and jail, and not necessarily in that order.

However, a total house-cleaning of the EPA leadership is long overdue and badly needed.

Who has the guts to start the ball rolling?


26 posted on 06/24/2013 5:44:44 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: 1010RD

Not surprised. It is typical of this administration to make false accusations and then quietly let the retraction be ignored by the main stream media.


27 posted on 06/24/2013 5:50:01 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Jim Robinson; 1010RD
I think determined states could assert their constitutional rights with or without the 17th.

Well, the Framing generation disagree. Absent a Senate of the States, eventual consolidation of all power in the national government was an eventual certainty.

At the Virginia ratification convention on June 6th 1788, James Madison responded to Patrick Henry’s charge that the Constitution’s enumerated powers would be usurped and our freedoms destroyed by a national government that would quickly seize all power.

Madison: “If the general government were wholly independent of the governments of the particular states, then, indeed, usurpation might be expected to the fullest extent. But, sir, on whom does this general government depend? It derives its authority from these governments, and from the same sources from which their authority is derived.”

Indeed. The 17th removed state agency from the federal republic. As predicted by Montesquieu, Federalists and Anti-Federalists alike, we slipped into an overwhelming, consolidated national government that oppresses both the states and the people with raw force.

The 17th must go.

28 posted on 06/24/2013 5:51:18 PM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: neverdem

I really, really despise the EPA. I resent to my marrow the idea that the public thinks they are to be trusted. I know unequivocally first-hand that they suppress perfectly good research if it doesn’t conform to their political agenda. That is beyond immoral from a science standpoint.


29 posted on 06/24/2013 5:51:48 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: neverdem
Sixty years of experience...and there is still no evidence that fracking contaminates the groundwater.

Could it possibly be that the enviro-wackos are dead wrong?

Could it be that most of their funding comes from Saudi Arabia?

30 posted on 06/24/2013 5:59:19 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Jacquerie

The 17th must go. Been saying that for years. And I’m in 100% agreement with the founders. They never intended an all powerful central government. They would’ve been shooting waaaay before now. But all the same, there’s no constitutional reason for determined states not at least trying to reassert their constitutional rights.


31 posted on 06/24/2013 6:17:52 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

The key is to show state legislatures, both Dem and Repub, that they’d gain power by doing so. That’s the only way to undo this stuff. We need the elites to help us. It’s never been done successfully in history without the political/economic elites or at least a powerful majority of them.


32 posted on 06/24/2013 6:45:24 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: neverdem
Hydraulic fracturing facility in Rifle, Colo.

Fracking's pretty tame compared to how they tried to get gas out near Rifle once before. See Project Rulison.

33 posted on 06/24/2013 6:52:13 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: neverdem
If you are going to engage in the practice of geology in Wyoming, State law requires you to be a licensed professional, registered with the State, or working under the supervision of a Wyoming Registered Professional Geologist.

I wonder if the EPA was in compliance?

34 posted on 06/25/2013 3:12:36 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

And then they buried some of that rubble from up on the mesa on the banks of the Colorado River (on the cutbank side) and put up a fence to keep people “safe”.


35 posted on 06/25/2013 3:16:05 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: neverdem

This is the producers versus the parasites. Useless Gov’t employed parasites who only care about their taxpayers funded paychecks. Eco-wacko-ideology is secondary. It’s all about getting paid for doing nothing useful to humanity


36 posted on 06/25/2013 3:25:01 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks neverdem.


37 posted on 06/25/2013 3:42:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Diogenesis

You also forget:

1) New rules/regs that were put into place, but never rescinded (no proof, but nothing in gov’t DIES)
2) The inability of Congress, who usurped then delegated powers to an unelected bureaucracy
3) We the People’s inability, IMHO: empathy, to hold #2’s feet to the fire re: #1 (IE: the Constitution)


38 posted on 06/25/2013 7:29:55 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: neverdem

The EPA can go frack themselves.


39 posted on 06/25/2013 7:30:33 AM PDT by dfwgator
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