Posted on 06/24/2013 1:13:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Ready for the kicker?
Discussing #immigration and why border security MUST come first on this issue in 25 minutes on @FoxNews #AZ #tcot
— Jan Brewer (@GovBrewer) June 24, 2013
Stupidity or something worse? Border security doesn’t “come first” in the Gang of Eight bill, of course; it comes before green-card eligibility but after probationary legalization, which is why Rand Paul, for instance, can’t support it. Illegals are granted a legal claim to staying here before anything happens on the border. Which leaves three possibilities. One: Brewer’s confused about what the bill says. That seems … doubtful. She’s the governor of a border state; almost no one is more interested in finding out precisely what the bill says than she is. Two: Brewer’s deliberately misleading the public at the behest of national Republicans who need prominent so-called “border hawks” like her to reassure low-information (a.k.a. dumb) GOPers that the bill is awesome. That seems likelier, although I believe Brewer’s term-limited as governor and therefore doesn’t really need anything from the national leadership. She could go her own way if she wanted to. Which brings us to number three: She supports the bill on the merits because, like Marco Rubio, she’s not as much of a border hawk as she pretended to be when running for office three years ago. By the same token, how many conservatives who voted for her thought she’d be a fan of ObamaCare? We have, it seems, been misled. Again.
Which brings me to the larger point. I honestly can’t believe how many Republican pols backing the bill lied, and lied brazenly, about being stalwart border hawks as candidates in order to get elected. Rubio, Dean Heller, Kelly Ayotte, Jan Brewer — hell, even McCain ran, ridiculously, as some sort of immigration hard-ass to get back to the Senate in 2010. Before the party tears itself apart over immigration reform in the House, can we have a moment of unity at least over the fact that immigration moderates shouldn’t lie about their moderation as candidates? Right? Respect your constituents enough to give them a fully informed choice in the booth by stating your opinion about a momentous issue of policy honestly. As it is, we’re being asked to believe that somehow every one of these people, from Rubio on down, has had precisely the same epiphany about what needs to be done on immigration, and in each case it was only after being safely elected that they had it. That’s some coincidence. No one but no one on the GOP side ever sees the virtue of “legalization first” policies and “comprehensive” reform in the middle of the campaign; only afterward, when they’ve gained incumbency and the support of monied national Republican interests, do they somehow attain enlightenment. Virtually no one talks about the status quo being “de facto amnesty” until after they’ve made it to Washington; as candidates, you’re much more likely to hear them say that an “earned path to citizenship is basically code for amnesty,” as Marco Rubio once infamously did. If you take these very conveniently timed reversals at face value (which you shouldn’t), then at best it means the people now leading the GOP effort on reform simply didn’t think deeply or at any length about this subject as candidates. Candidate Rubio thought earned citizenship equalled amnesty, but that’s only because he cared so little about the nuts and bolts of the issue that he didn’t spend 10 minutes thinking hard on it until he got elected, whereupon he suddenly discovered that amnesty is actually what we have now. This is the guy we’re supposed to follow on this issue?
These people lie to you, shamelessly, to get elected, and then betray your interests while in office to stay elected. They have the sheerest contempt for your opinion. Keep that in mind when the champagne corks are popping on the Hill today after the big Senate vote.
That's the conclusion I've come to also. Some of these "conservatives" are going 180 degrees on certain issues within a year...issues they seemed passionate about in the very recent past. Follow the money - political power, and the celebrity which accompanies it, corrupts everything and everyone it touches. The more power/money the more corruption. No exceptions.
My thoughts exactly.
I don’t know her personally, but I do know a lot of people who do and have known her since way back when she was just a precinct committeewoman. They told me she was very conservative at that time, but definitely NOT bright and she certainly hasn’t wised up.
They also told me Russell Pearce wrote SB1070 and had to pressure her to sign it. She never would have been elected as governor at all if she hadn’t signed. Then she paid him back by doing absolutely NOTHING to help him when a left wing skank organization managed to get him recalled.
She also did nothing for Sheriff Joe when he was attacked by the same creeps. Fortunately he prevailed, not having been redistricted into vulnerability.
Right now she’s acting like a little Nazi, a very, very stupid little Nazi. It would have been so different if Buzz Mills had been elected instead, but all the other candidates basically took themselves out of the running in respect for her having the guts to sign 1070 and stand up to FedGov. Retch.
NSA. Nothing more need be said.
Red.....Wait...something is going on...something we’re not privy to...and you can bet the Demo-rat’s are saying the same thing behind closed doors?
All our people are jumping on board...that means whatever the House has planned is ready. I say wait....
You are right. Lots of money is changing hands in Phoenix and across the country. Obrewercare, immigration, Common Core...
Only a total absolute collapse will fix things.
Politicians of both parties need to be ..... up
I don’t think so....but whatever the House has been in their kitchen cooking...’they are ready to serve’.....they want the bill in their court now.... or our guys wouldn’t be sooooo eager.
Yep. Looks like she’s doing the Corker Amendment side-step...under the guise of a *border security surge*.
Viva los USSA! Estonia or the Czech Republic seem very appealing now, as emigration destinations.
We are doomed.
” They also told me Russell Pearce wrote SB1070 and had to pressure her to sign it. She never would have been elected as governor at all if she hadn’t signed. Then she paid him back by doing absolutely NOTHING to help him when a left wing skank organization managed to get him recalled.”
Just what I figured. Thanks for the info.
-PJ
Janet Napolitano was selected by Obama to serve as the Secretary of Homeland Security in the United States Cabinet.
Arizona has no lieutenant governor, so Jan Brewer, the then Secretary of State stands first in the line of succession if he or she holds that post as a result of an election.
Jim, Somethings not at all figuring here no matter which way it’s looked at. Why are our guys suddenly so eager to get this bill in their hands? Not to mentioning all jumping on board so fast.
When Rubio began to swing , and the fact it’s Rubio, I could not for the life of me figure that...regardless of his ethinticity...... So I figured he might know something we didn’t, especially when he began speaking/ phoning/ meeting personally with so many of the key figures on our side and then they’d switch overnight.
Now with Jan......the last person I’d expect to swing.
There has got to be something going on we are not privy to, and they’re keeping it to themselves with Rubio willing to take the heat til they’re ready.
I think the House is ready with whatever they’re going to pull and WANT the bill in their court...now.
I sincerely hope our guys aren’t folding so quick without good purpose.....I’m willing to wait and see once the house has this...otherwise we are surely in a world of hurt worse than already.
I wonder what kind of blackmail the NSA has on her?
NSA = blackmail
Same as Justice Roberts and Obamacare.
Welcome to Changed America.
Well, it’s really very simple. There’s this labor shortage you see. And the illegals are much more fertile than Americans. And amnesty will cut a trillion dollars out of the deficit—very similar in this regard to ObamaCare. And the new taxes provided by the new taxpayers will provide money to finally secure the border in about, say 30 or 40 years. And anyhow we have to do. Otherwise the hispanics will hate us and the Republicans will never win another election.
I partially agree with that last part. Amnesty will definitely ensure the death of the republican party.
She is not a young woman, and this kind of complete and total betrayal of the People of Arizona stuns me to the core.
We *are* living in 1984 it seems, and Obama’s creatures have found Jan's Room 101.
PRISM is a tyrants dream come true, his thought police can now pull the strings of even good people.
God save America.
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