Posted on 06/24/2013 8:39:21 AM PDT by thackney
Great now government will destroy your car engine too
So there.
My Subaru STI already sees a 5mpg drop on winter blend vs summer blend.
I can’t wait to see how well it runs on 15% ethanol :-(
E10 is already wreaking havoc on my engine.
It’s not uncommon among my Amish neighbors to hitch a Shetland pony to that sort of mower; a somewhat more traditional means by which field crops can be used for transportation fuel.
I am trying to use a couple teenage girls. I use $$$ on my stick instead of carrots.
Looking down the road, there is substantial interest among the engine and automobile companies in the mid-level blends such as E30 or E40 in order to meet future mileage and emissions standards. Ethanol has a lower energy density than gasoline so there is a mileage penalty at a 10 percent blend. But ethanol also has higher octane, and at higher blends this erases the mileage penalty and burns cleaner as well.
The engine manufacturers, including the small engine manufacturers, should have shifted to a flex fuel standard years ago.
“I use $$$ on my stick instead of carrots.”
The jokes write themselves. LOL
Trust me, the amount of $$$ necessary multiplies geometrically as the age of the girls increases.
Not true. When Indy cars switched to pure ethanol, using an engine specifically designed for ethanol, they required larger fuel tanks to keep the same mileage between refueling.
Octane prevents early detonation, it does not provide more energy per gallon, as gasoline versus ethanol does.
Sorry, I mixed up Indy and Nascar.
Indy switched from Methanol to Ethanol, getting more miles to the gallon.
Nascar switched from Gasoline to Ethanol Blend getting less miles to the gallon.
True flex-fuel capability requires electronic fuel injection along with a computer control and related sensors sophisticated enough to adjust fuel injector pulses based on the fuel blend in the tank. Given the limited availability of E85 fuel, the car manufacturers had to be prodded by the government to include the additional hardware (there was little financial incentive to do so).
This sort of fuel system might work on a larger outboard motor as well (those usually have a weather-proof engine cover with enough room for the computer, plumbing and wiring). Smaller outboards, power mowers, string trimmers, chainsaws - none of those are suited to flex-fuel configuration.
Sure, you can build a small engine (or a carbureted car engine) to run very well indeed on E85, but it won't run well on anything else. This push for E15 is a way to force increased use of ethanol as fuel because when given a choice, consumers prefer their ethanol to be aged in oak casks and served neat or over ice.
It would be interesting to see Monsanto’s influence in all this, since they are a major supplier of corn for ethanol.
A lovely solution. Please demonstrate on the 3/4 acre of grass at my two homes in Idaho. I wait until 8:30 PM when the temp drops to 95 degrees at 20% humidity. Plenty of good light left at that hour.
Ethanol has ruined a growing list of products for me:
Weedeater - fuel line disolved
Chain Saw - fuel line disolved twice
Push mower - rubber bladder style carb became dry and ruined
Riding mower - every 2 years, the gasket in the carb disentegrates
Car - fuel line rusted from inside out, near top of engine where it bends to meet fuel rail.
I’ve started using fuel stabilizer specifically meant for ethanol...for my mowers etc. But I can’t afford to put that in my car all the time.
Most cars now have an extensive fuel vapor system, with lots of plastic parts and rubber tubing. I think alot of these will fail...giving check engine codes, and making your car smell like a filling station - but remember, its all to save the environment.
so I guess once it blows up a few engines WE will have standing?
My little spot in Suburbia hell is a tiny lot.
For the retirement property, 60 acres, we use a diesel tractor.
I’m not claiming it is a great thing. I just got so darn tired of fighting engine failures in little engines, I gave up.
On the plus side, the girls no longer can claim they couldn’t start the engine while I was at work.
I have a similar list of small engine problems that are related to E10. Finally, I went and bought some mid-grade gasoline at the local marina (ethanol-free). Now the little clear primer bulbs don’t require replacement every three months.
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