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To: rockrr

It`s obvious now you are puuling facts out of thin air.

The Morrill vote sectional breakdown was 96–15 in the north, 7–9 in the Border, and 1–39 in the south.There were 55 abstentions.

The Morrill bill was brought to the Senate and passed 25 to 14. Supported by 24 Republicans and Democrat William Bigler of Pennsylvania. It was opposed by seven southern Democrats, three from the Border, two from the north, and two from the far west. Most of the Southern Senators had resigned. Thus it had easy passage.

You are completely wrong.

I never engage in a debate with anyone who serves up their own disinformation as facts.


200 posted on 06/24/2013 2:48:36 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (Happily in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own guardians.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
The Morrill bill was brought to the Senate and passed 25 to 14. Supported by 24 Republicans and Democrat William Bigler of Pennsylvania. It was opposed by seven southern Democrats, three from the Border, two from the north, and two from the far west. Most of the Southern Senators had resigned. Thus it had easy passage.

Then had the Southern states not left and pulled their senators the Morrill Tariff would have gone down to defeat in March 1861 by a vote of 25 to 28. So then those claiming that the tariff motivated the Southern states to rebel are pulling their facts out of thin air.

206 posted on 06/24/2013 3:12:45 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Para-Ord.45

Let’s recap.

In your #143 you attempted to conflate the Nullification Act (which happened in 1832) with Lincoln somehow “nullifying the 10th” (a process you never explained).

In #146 I asked what happened with SC’s nullification ordinance?

In #147 you responded, “Lincoln and Congress passed the highly protectionist Morrill tariffs”.

Since 26 years had transpired between SC’s attempt at nullification and the passage of the Morrill tariffs it was difficult to imagine that you were trying to link them, but very reasonable to presume that you were confusedly speaking of THE Tariff Act (the “Tariff of Abominations”) and not the Morrill tariff (which had nothing to do with SC’s attempt at nullification - which never involved Lincoln.

I’m not sure why you choose to lay blame at Lincoln’s feet for something he was never involved with - why not Jackson?


209 posted on 06/24/2013 3:20:36 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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