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To: Mr. K
That’s because they hand out engineering degrees and doctorates in India like candy and we import these idiots.

While this is true, I have two observations:

One: Unless the Indian national assimilates to our culture and business customs, they don't do well. The cultural differences are too great.

Two: The Indians I have worked with have been quite skilled, but perhaps this is a minority. I do know that India has very severe corruption problems, so paper credentials are not a useful gauge of their skill.

15 posted on 06/23/2013 6:26:56 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: Lazamataz

Don’t get me wrong- I have worked with some wonderful and talented people from India- forgive me if I made it sound like 100% of the degreed people from there are useless- that is absolutely not the case.

Just in the last 5 or 10 years- they churned out way to many unskilled, and I have worked with groups of them that clung to each other in a group, refused to share information, and churned out garbage code (like a high-schooler)

When you suddenly double or triple your output of engineers, you get more and more from the lower half of the bell-curve. And in a class full of morons, graded on a curve, even an idiot can get an A.


23 posted on 06/23/2013 6:37:47 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Lazamataz

You’re right, India turns out a lot of highly-skilled engineers, too. It is in part the job of the top Indian outsourcers to skim off the best grads and then give them good further training.


47 posted on 06/23/2013 7:18:01 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Lazamataz; Mr. K
Re: that’s because they hand out engineering degrees and doctorates in India like candy and we import these idiots.

While this is true, I have two observations:

One: Unless the Indian national assimilates to our culture and business customs, they don't do well. The cultural differences are too great.

Two: The Indians I have worked with have been quite skilled, but perhaps this is a minority. I do know that India has very severe corruption problems, so paper credentials are not a useful gauge of their skill.


One: Agreed

Two: Not in my experience. Those skilled are a very small minority. Most couldn't program themselves into or out of a paper bag. I have many friends in the field with the same observation.

Three: On the whole, paid way less than Americans. Have suppressed rates at least by 1/3.
Many morph into illegals. And work the same way the Mexicans do - through companies that vouch for them and sell their services at such a low price, they are subsidized by tax payers with government freebies.

They are very comfortable with government freebies. India is a very socialist, big government, crony 'capitalist' country.

Large corporations love them because they are CHEAP.
81 posted on 06/23/2013 10:00:39 AM PDT by khelus
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