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TED CRUZ Launches National Petition Drive to Kill Immigration Bill
Gateway Pundit/Breitbart ^ | June 20, 2013 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 06/21/2013 2:53:20 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Edited on 06/21/2013 8:35:29 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: 9YearLurker

There are multiple, multiple sources for this. From the Daily Caller to the Blaze to Townhall to US News and on and on. If you google, or use an alternate search engine, the following “Ted Cruz no path to citizenship for illegal immigrants” you get a bunch of them. I’ve included a link to just one of many...

Ted Cruz on Immigration

http://www.ontheissues.org/international/Ted_Cruz_Immigration.htm

There is no excuse, 9yearLurker.


101 posted on 06/22/2013 2:58:56 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck)
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To: txrangerette

Ted Cruz wants to legalize tens of millions of illegals.

Once that’s done, citizenship is inevitable.

Amnesty is legalizing tens of millions of illegals.

Cruz is essentially just a smart Rick Perry.

You Texans will ruin our country with your use of illegal labor and push for legalization.


102 posted on 06/22/2013 3:15:41 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Here’s a “twofer” immigration story that appeared right here on FR.

In the posted text it says, ***”Cruz previously attempted to amend the bill to eliminate a path to citizenship***”.

Then goes on to talk about another amendment he attempted that required states to require ID (proof of citizenship) before registering voters.

Ted Cruz Set to Infuriate the Left With Immigration Bill Amendment (Voter ID)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3032546/posts

Again, let’s not get lost in the weeds and forget what you have been posting. You keep on posting that Ted Cruz is nibbling around the edges by only addressing border security and not amnesty itself. Flat false. Has spoken out against any path to citizenship, ever, for those who entered illegally, and has offered an amendment that would eliminate the path to citizenship portion of the Senate immigration bill.

As a bonus, also offered an amendment on the issue of voter registration ID to prove someone is a citizen before being put on the voter rolls.


103 posted on 06/22/2013 3:48:39 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck)
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To: txrangerette

Amnesty, amnesty, amnesty. How much clearer can I get? He is in favor of legalizing tens of millions of illegals already here. Though his idea of this bill doesn’t include a path to citizenship, that is what the bill includes and what would be inevitable after the mass legalization.

This bill does forgive those tens of millions the massive number of felonies they’ve committed through identity theft, fraud and the like and excuses them from billions and billions of back taxes unpaid.

It is amnesty, amnesty, amnesty. Cruz is for the legalization of tens of millions of illegals—which is amnesty!


104 posted on 06/22/2013 3:58:12 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: txrangerette

What Ted and his petition are focused on is the border security ‘issue’. But even at that, that’s not what he wants. As he has said, he favor comprehensive ‘reform’ (code word: amnesty), not just border security.

Border security and an immediately specified path to citizenship are the two tweaks that Rubio and his gang have been prepared to modify their bill with, if that’s what’s needed to get it through the Senate. They offered a slight tweak on security (which is meaningless), but are now confident of getting it through without further modification.

Then, all they have to do, as Michele Bachmann has warned, is go through reconciliation with a less harmful immigration bill which would probably be all that Boehner could force through the House, and have the noxious Senate version be what comes out of the process.

The country’s being sold down the river and all you can do is claim that Cruz’s support for legalizing tens of millions of illegals, with a law that explicitly ‘forgives’ them massive past felonies, somehow isn’t amnesty.


105 posted on 06/22/2013 4:07:08 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: txrangerette

bttt


106 posted on 06/22/2013 5:42:33 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: 9YearLurker; txrangerette
Lurker, show a link to one quote from Cruz where he wants amnesty. Just one. Rangerette has posted plenty showing he doesn't. Put up or shut up.
107 posted on 06/22/2013 5:51:56 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark

Here ya go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m403mPh1Na4

Of course, no pol for amnesty calls it amnesty. Rubio and Ryan would tell you there’s no amnesty in their bill, only ‘earned legalization’, yet their bill would absolve illegals of tens of millions of felonies and billions and billions in back taxes:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/06/figures-immigration-bill-waives-criminal-activity-for-illegals-but-increases-penalties-for-citizens/

Cruz is for legalizing illegals, as he tells Bolling, which is amnesty.


108 posted on 06/22/2013 6:06:44 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

I’ve never heard him say anything other than this bill is crap, no amnesty, secure the border now, let’s not repeat the mistake of 1986 and legalize these law breakers. I listened to the interview, he said nothing, absolutely nothing that remotely sounded like you are claiming. Where are you getting your idea he is pushing amnesty? What the Hell is the matter with you?


109 posted on 06/22/2013 6:18:07 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark

He’s for ‘legalization’, just doesn’t want to call it amnesty. What part of ‘legalization’ do you not understand?

How could you post here at FR and not notice that every pol pushing amnesty loudly proclaims to be against amnesty?


110 posted on 06/22/2013 6:48:38 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
He’s for ‘legalization’

He never said that, not once in the interview, not once that I've ever heard, not even close. I'm against amnesty, does that mean I'm pushing it?

Your standard is insane.

111 posted on 06/22/2013 7:57:46 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark

You seem to be logic-challenged here.

I was explaining why a claim to oppose amnesty in pol-speak means absolutely nothing.

Listen to that interview with Cruz and he repeatedly says ‘secure the border first’. He goes on and on against ‘legalization first’, saying his proposed amendment, for example, would have us ‘secure the border first’, where that ‘first’ is clearly ahead of the legalization that is the meat of the bill.


112 posted on 06/22/2013 9:14:44 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
Let me see, "anyone who claims to be against amnesty is actually for it", and you have the nerve to call ME logic challenged......

Of course he wants the border fixed, it needs fixing. He wants the influx to stop. And you call ME logic challenged......

HE NEVER HINTS AT WHAT YOU ARE CLAIMNG. And you call ME logic challenged..........

Go away.

113 posted on 06/22/2013 9:21:08 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: mosesdapoet

I think mexico’s before the fact of not allowing US citizens to own land is better than allowing the ownership and subsequent expropriation.


114 posted on 06/22/2013 9:42:04 AM PDT by Manta (Obama to issue executive order repealing laws of physics)
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To: Lakeshark

No, clown, neither “Of course, no pol for amnesty calls it amnesty” nor “every pol pushing amnesty loudly proclaims to be against amnesty” is what you garble and then attempt to quote me at with “anyone who claims to be against amnesty is actually for it”.

Given that you can’t handle simple logic or truth in your argument re: my posts, I’m not even going to begin to address your denial of what Cruz repeatedly says in the link I provided you.


115 posted on 06/22/2013 9:46:21 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Manta

In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled TED CRUZ Launches National Petition Drive to Kill Immigration Bill,
In response to suggesting reciprocity where Americans cannot own land in Mexico should apply to illegals living in the US.
Manta wrote:
“I think mexico’s before the fact of not allowing US citizens to own land is better than allowing the ownership and subsequent expropriation.”

Really ?


116 posted on 06/22/2013 10:15:59 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: 9YearLurker
I heard what Cruz said on the interview, it was fine and I agree with it. 99.99% of Freepers agree with it. You have nothing to stand on, you misquote him, and then you resort to insult. Here's one back at you:

You're insane. Simply insane. Just go away.

117 posted on 06/22/2013 10:27:13 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: mosesdapoet

It’s more honest than letting you buy then stealing. Usually, looters steal only after improvements have been made.


118 posted on 06/22/2013 12:50:31 PM PDT by Manta (Obama to issue executive order repealing laws of physics)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Praying for him. Enough said.


119 posted on 06/22/2013 6:21:27 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Jackwagons of the United States You Have Wrecked My Country)
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