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To: campaignPete R-CT
We have many duties. Storming the beaches at Normandy was many things but not "prudence." Ask anyone who hit the beaches that day.

The "Boys of Pont du Hoc" and all the rest did a great service to civilization that day when they established the foothold necessary to retake Western Europe from Hitler. Of course, FDR failed to keep Stalin's grubby and murderous paws off Eastern Europe. Ask Ukrainians and Poles who were there and Hungarians. It was worth taking the beaches at Normandy and worth taking Western Europe. We (that is to say conservatives) NEVER morally conceded the control of Eastern Europe to Stalin. Eventually Stalin's successors (Brezhnev, Andropov, Chernenko, Gorbachev, et al.) found out to their grave discomfort how many divisions that a later pope (JP II) had at his disposal in alliance with Solidarnosc, the martyred Fr. Jerzy Popieluszko, Lech Walensa, Ronaldus Maximus, and the Iron Lady, each doing his or her or its part when it counted. Despite knowing Vladimir Putin's resume, we are now unable to locate the USSR or the Warsaw Pact Nations (at least those still in the Warsaw Pact).

I also remember Ronaldus Maximus referencing the USSR as "The Evil Empire." Informed elite opinion REALLY relegated him to the amiable dunce category thereafter. Yet, he won and the USSR lost. Was he imprudent in provoking the soviets?

Essentially, your argument can be applied to justify such absolute evil as voting for Mitt Romney who was every bit as bad on abortion (and marriage and guns and most other issues) as Obozo himself. Thanks but no thanks.

I would bet that Judie Brown did NOT vote for the enthusiastic baby-killer Romney any more than she voted for Obozo. When whatever sliver of difference between Obozo and Mittler can be claimed as an excuse for either Evildumb or Evildumber, rationality has fled the scene. If you examine your conscience on this, you must concede that there is no moral excuse, based on the track record of either, to justify, on pro-life grounds (or pro-family, or pro-gun or anything but Muffy's trust fund and Skipper's polo pony) a vote for either major party trash in the 2012 POTUS election. This is NOT about who gets the jobs and the contracts. How does one punish a political party so as to prevent it from repeating an offense???? Not by voting for Mittler, that's for sure.

If the GOP wants my vote, the GOP will have to earn it the old-fashioned way by nominating acceptable candidates. NARAL does not decide my vote. They are whores for the Demonrat Party and its and their contributors just as the National Right to Life Committee are whores for the Republican Party and its and their contributors. These groups are not the relentless Lawrence Laders of yesteryear nor Dr. Jack Willke of yesteryear. Both groups seek, as their highest goal, not to offend the contributors. If they are faithful to the contributors' fastidious and ohhhh soooooo respectable, "prudent" and pristinely non-militant sensibilities, the individual "leaders" will get their gold watches and 25-year pins on retirement from their chronically unsuccessful efforts.

104 posted on 06/19/2013 5:25:36 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: BlackElk

I’m grateful to have had the opportunity to support Martha Dean AG candidate and pro-life Catholic convert at the 2010 GOP convention as she squeaked in with 51% and also able to support Linda McMahon in her first ballot victory over Rob Simmons and her later victory in ‘12 over Chris Shays.

I’m also glad I was able to campaign for Scott Brown in ‘10 when he defeated Martha.

It was encouraging that state Sen. Dan Debicella was the lone vote 34-1 against forcing Plan B on the CT Catholic Hospitals.

What was not encouraging was when the purity crowd went negative on McMahon and Scott Brown and advocated blank ballot voting. The purity crowd also engaged in a bad-mouthing campaign against Debicella in his Congressional race in Fairfield County CT-4.

The purity crowd urged a blank ballot in MCFL-endorsed Sullivan’s primary vs. this Gabrielle Gomez pro-gay Massachusetts GOPer.

When the next Scalia is nominated and 60 votes are sought, we will rue the day that Brown and McMahon were purged. When the attempt is made to repeal Obamacare we will be baffled as to why Debicella, Hayworth, J. Horn, Tedisco, Fleitman, etc. were purged.

Electing somebody in New England takes work, running a boycott campaign against ‘RINOs’ is easy. The vote in New England on this bill was 21-0. And the repeal Obamacare vote is likely to be 21-0. I am not sure what the goal is in the boycott movement in New England. I guess the defeat of Brown demonstates their influence and raises their status above marginalization.

But now there is nobody left to purge.

While the A.L.L. crowd was busy with the above, pro-lifers lost the Manchester state Senate seat by 0.1% and the Meriden state Senate seat by 0.5%. And a half dozen rep seat primaries by 20 votes. That speaks for itself.

Last I checked, Prudence was one of the virtues and not an optional one. I’ll stick with Father Pavone’s theology.


107 posted on 06/19/2013 6:56:26 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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