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To: servo1969
"The overall consensus was that 9mm handguns are superior for personal defense because there is less recoil, they allow for accurate follow-up shots and the ammunition is equal to the effectiveness of that of a .45 or .40 caliber pistol."

Anybody else disagree with this statement?
10 posted on 06/18/2013 9:56:12 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Support Free Republic!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Anybody else disagree with this statement?

Sir Isaac Newton has a formula that disagrees. F=MA.

I'm not sure I would recommend a Glock 9mm for a novice for self-defense. I think more along the lines of a hammerless .38 special. Point and pull the trigger until it goes click.

12 posted on 06/18/2013 10:07:10 AM PDT by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

It’s likely that someone said something to the effect of “It’s better to hit someone with a 9mm than to miss with a .40 or .45. A 9mm will kill you just as well.” Then she ran with it.

My .40 has considerable muzzle flip, while my .45 stays on target much easier. I have nothing against 9mm, but I prefer the .45 - and I’m certainly not going to volunteer to stand in front of anything, whether it’s .17 or .50.


16 posted on 06/18/2013 11:48:22 AM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
"Anybody else disagree with this statement?"

I suppose if it is a sold strike between the eyes of the perp, it is basically equal in effectiveness, but otherwise, make mine a .45 ACP, 'cause shooting twice is just silly!

17 posted on 06/18/2013 11:54:18 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
I would agree up to a point. I don't believe that recoil differences between the 3 rounds in question should be a deciding factor in that they are all manageable with enough practice. 45ACP is unquestionably a better performing round than a 9mm, but the 9mm is still effective. It is the additional rounds per platform is where the 9mm pulls ahead IMO.
19 posted on 06/18/2013 12:57:21 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Here is a link to a video of 9mm vs .45acp in both FMJ and Hollow Point and their effect on a watermelon. This is why I carry a .45 and have for 40 years.

LLS


20 posted on 06/18/2013 12:57:52 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0oOVwcMBag

sorry.


21 posted on 06/18/2013 12:59:17 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

“Anybody else disagree with this statement?”

As with a lot of things in life, the best answer is often “that depends.” Chuck Hawks has written extensively on the stopping power of various calibers, and his stats seem to support the proposition that high quality 9mm defensive rounds have nearly if not the same stopping power as .40 cal and .45 acp. There are exceptions to just about everything, but in general, 9mm +p hollow points are as effective as the larger rounds.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_power_chart.htm

http://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_stopping_power.htm

http://www.chuckhawks.com/beginners_stopping_power.htm


22 posted on 06/18/2013 1:08:25 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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